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Will Bush be telling Jersey: 'Thanks, pardner'?
The Jersey Journal ^ | October 28, 2004 | Joe Albright

Posted on 10/29/2004 12:35:36 AM PDT by kingattax

Is it reality or the appearance of reality in New Jersey? On Tuesday, President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney will learn whether the Garden State was a political mirage or a political upset. The polls are tantalizingly close. It began Oct. 2 with a New Jersey City University poll for The Jersey Journal showing staunchly Democratic Hudson County favored Bush, 37 to 33 percent, over Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic rival. The Journal poll inspired Statehouse observers to ask: "What's going on in Hudson County?" But soon they would be asking questions about the rest of the state.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: gwb2004; newjersey; presidentbush; purplestates
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1 posted on 10/29/2004 12:35:37 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

sure hope so.

Because it would make dan rather cry.


2 posted on 10/29/2004 12:39:48 AM PDT by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: kingattax

it could very well happen. for a lot of people in NJ the

war on terror is a very personal issue. Might be a VERY

early night Tuesday if NJ goes red.


3 posted on 10/29/2004 12:40:45 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

And lots of CATHOLICS in Jersey. I really think Catholics are going to reject Kerry and his amorality.


4 posted on 10/29/2004 12:44:30 AM PDT by elizabetty
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To: elizabetty

Yep. Kerry is about as religious as Saddam Hussein. There's a fraud in every congregation.


5 posted on 10/29/2004 12:46:02 AM PDT by xuberalles
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To: xuberalles

I just looked it up, half of the church goers in New Jersey are Catholic.


6 posted on 10/29/2004 12:47:12 AM PDT by elizabetty
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To: kingattax

If Democratic Hudson County does go BIG for Bush, John F*ckin's goose is cooked. I can't believe the President is up in a Democratic stronghold! Then again, the President has been a big hit in areas carried by Algore in 2000.


7 posted on 10/29/2004 12:51:46 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: elizabetty

Thats a ton. And being Bush is known for his strong faith, coupled with the scars 9/11 has left in that state, he has a great chance. If Bush wins NJ, it's a sign of doom for Kerry.


8 posted on 10/29/2004 12:56:35 AM PDT by xuberalles
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To: kingattax

I live in nj, and actually hope some pub lawyers show up at the polls in this state to help prevent election fraud. I think it's been going on for years here (got no proof, just a gut feeling).


9 posted on 10/29/2004 1:00:40 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: elizabetty

NJ tripped over itself to vote for Clinton and then Gore by huge margins. I think social values work against Bush in NJ. I never got a sense that many NJ residents cared much about Monica Lewinsky et al.

It is terrorism and security that drive Bush's dramatic improvement.


10 posted on 10/29/2004 1:01:59 AM PDT by nj26
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To: searchandrecovery

Thats my one fear! Fraud is so hard to definitively catch and stop. How ironic is it that last election Bush was up around 50,000 votes in florida with only 1% of the precincts left to be counted, and suddenly Gore came charging back. He had to practically get every last vote. I think people will monitor the totals and if necessary try to slide in some last minute votes that were mysteriously not counted.


11 posted on 10/29/2004 1:04:25 AM PDT by xuberalles
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Thats my one fear! Fraud is so hard to definitively catch and stop.

Since no RAT operative would have guessed that NJ was in play, there has been no organized fraud in the state, just the normal stuff. Here's hoping to an EARLY wooden stake in the heart of Kerry...

12 posted on 10/29/2004 1:13:53 AM PDT by Go Gordon (US Armed Forces in Iraq are kicking a$$ and taking hyphenated names)
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To: kingattax

First, I hoe it's so, and Bush walks away with NJ's EVs.

Second, I bet against it happening, right after the fluke FDU poll. Not as confident it was a good bet the last 36 hours.

Third, Expect problems in the vote tallying in NJ, if at some point in the night, the internal exit polls show Bush ahead.

Fourth, Kerry tries to clusterf**k the Pharma industry, the Pharma industry employees aren't going out without a fight. If each Pharma employee in NJ influences 2 friends to vote against Kerry, it's more than enough votes to turn the state to Bush.

Fifth, Kerry lacks any street cred, any sense of the NJ everyman, hell, Springstein can play at rallies for you, but needing him there is an admission of your lack of blu collar credentials. In places like Hudson county, the average person realizes that Kerry would be afraid to even walk down the street in some of the neighborhoods there, let alone stand up and lead in a time of renewed terror attacks nationwide. Clinton would not only walk the walk in the neighborhood, he'd stop at Mickey D's and scarf down 2 Big Macs withthe locals.

Sixth, Religious communities in the state

Seventh, Terrorism

Eighth, In a state where anti-gun, pro-NEA, "for the children" mush platitudes can get almost any warm bodied Democrat elected, there has been a complete lack of that type of campaigning by Kerry in N. Jersey. I love the conundrum, how can one be anti-gun, anti-self defense, and be pro military, pro strong national defense? Ephemeral Jersey voters finally caught on, after their neighbors and friends ashed drifted across the Hudson.

Ninth, Corruption, Deomcrats, McSleaze


I'm not sure about the religious community angle. They(we) overwhelmingly vote Rep election after election in the rural, exurban, and suburban areas.


13 posted on 10/29/2004 1:14:12 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: xuberalles
last minute votes that were mysteriously not counted.

Yep, yep, yep. I gots an Aunt who lives in FLA, and she and her neighbors thought that whole "chad" thing was about the dems putting multiple cards into the voting machines (tough to punch through 4 cards, ya know). Hence the dem push to look at "intent".

Anyway, I wouldn't object to some kind of voter id thing (show a driver's license) to prove you are who you are before voting. In nj they make you sign your name - this is good.

14 posted on 10/29/2004 1:18:29 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: kingattax
It's apparent that Bush's message is resonating in New Jersey. In the Oct. 15 FDU poll, Bush leads Kerry on the terrorism question by a resounding 67 to 26 percent.

This is the kind of question the decision will turn on with many a voter once they get into the booth.
15 posted on 10/29/2004 1:24:57 AM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: searchandrecovery

Try this: http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_4_urbanities-election.html


16 posted on 10/29/2004 1:37:57 AM PDT by Marak
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To: searchandrecovery

Agreed. Everyone should show id. It just makes sense.


17 posted on 10/29/2004 1:40:19 AM PDT by xuberalles
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To: Marak
"How to Steal an Election" by John Fund

This looks promising. Going to sleep now - will respond tomorrow.

18 posted on 10/29/2004 1:44:52 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: Rastus

Of course what's asinine, is how democrats don't understand why they should be required to vote in their precinct or county. I mean let's be serious. What's to keep someone from voting at multiple locations. I dont believe many states have the electronic system in place tp instantly verify such information. Unless you're dead set on commiting voter fraud, this is common sense.


19 posted on 10/29/2004 1:47:51 AM PDT by xuberalles
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To: kingattax

Blue collar Demonctars from Hudson County get a look at GROUND ZERO constantly. They have not forgotten 9-11.


20 posted on 10/29/2004 3:41:06 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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