Posted on 10/27/2004 7:03:43 PM PDT by ambrose
MISSING EXPLOSIVES
4 Iraqis Tell of Looting at Munitions Site in '03
By JAMES GLANZ and JIM DWYER
Published: October 28, 2004
BAGHDAD, Iraq, Oct. 27 - Looters stormed the weapons site at Al Qaqaa in the days after American troops swept through the area in early April 2003 on their way to Baghdad, gutting office buildings, carrying off munitions and even dismantling heavy machinery, three Iraqi witnesses and a regional security chief said Wednesday.
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The Iraqis described an orgy of theft so extensive that enterprising residents rented their trucks to looters. But some looting was clearly indiscriminate, with people grabbing anything they could find and later heaving unwanted items off the trucks.
Two witnesses were employees of Al Qaqaa - one a chemical engineer and the other a mechanic - and the third was a former employee, a chemist, who had come back to retrieve his records, determined to keep them out of American hands. The mechanic, Ahmed Saleh Mezher, said employees asked the Americans to protect the site but were told this was not the soldiers' responsibility.
The accounts do not directly address the question of when 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives vanished from the site sometime after early March, the last time international inspectors checked the seals on the bunkers where the material was stored. It is possible that Iraqi forces removed some explosives before the invasion.
But the accounts make clear that what set off much if not all of the looting was the arrival and swift departure of American troops, who did not secure the site after inducing the Iraqi forces to abandon it.
"The looting started after the collapse of the regime," said Wathiq al-Dulaimi, a regional security chief, who was based nearby in Latifiya. But once it had begun, he said, the booty streamed toward Baghdad.
Earlier this month, on Oct. 10, the directorate of national monitoring at the Ministry of Science and Technology notified the International Atomic Energy Agency that the explosives, which are used in demolition and missiles and are the raw material for plastic explosives, were missing. The agency has monitored the explosives because they can also be used as the initiator of an atomic bomb.
Agency officials examined the explosives in January 2003 and noted in early March that their seals were still in place. On April 3, the Third Infantry Division arrived with the first American troops.
Chris Anderson, a photographer for U.S. News and World Report who was with the division's Second Brigade, recalled that the area was jammed with American armor on April 3 and 4, which he believed made the removal of the explosives unlikely. "It would be quite improbable for this amount of weapons to be looted at that time because of the traffic jam of armor," he said.
The brigade blew up numerous caches of arms throughout the area, he said. Mr. Anderson said he did not enter the munitions compound.
The Second Brigade of the 101st Airborne Division arrived outside the site on April 10, under the command of Col. Joseph Anderson. The brigade had been ordered to move quickly to Baghdad because of civil disorder there after Mr. Hussein's government fell on April 9.
They gathered at Al Qaqaa, about 30 miles south, simply as a matter of convenience, Colonel Anderson said in an interview this week. He said that when he arrived at the site - unaware of its significance - he saw no signs of looting, but was not paying close attention.
Because he thought the brigade would be moving on to Baghdad within hours, Al Qaqaa was of no importance to his mission, he said, and he was unaware of the explosives that international inspectors said were hidden inside.
Pentagon officials said Wednesday that analysts were examining surveillance photographs of the munitions site. But they expressed doubts that the photographs, which showed vehicles at the location on several occasions early in the conflict, before American troops moved through the area, would be able to indicate conclusively when the explosives were removed.
Col. David Perkins, who commanded the Second Brigade of the Third Infantry Division, called it "very highly improbable" that 380 tons of explosives could have been trucked out of Al Qaqaa in the weeks after American troops arrived.
Moving that much material, said Colonel Perkins, who spoke Wednesday to news agencies and cable television, "would have required dozens of heavy trucks and equipment moving along the same roadways as U.S. combat divisions occupied continually for weeks."
He conceded that some looting of the site had taken place. But a chemical engineer who worked at Al Qaqaa and identified himself only as Khalid said that once troops left the base itself, people streamed in to steal computers and anything else of value from the offices. They also took munitions like artillery shells, he said.
Mr. Mezher, the mechanic, said it took the looters about two weeks to disassemble heavy machinery at the site and carry that off after the smaller items were gone.
James Glanz reported from Baghdad for this article and Jim Dwyer from New York. Ali Adeeb contributed reporting from Baghdad, and Khalid W. Hussein and Zainab Obeid fromAl Qaqaa.
From yesterday's NY Times article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/27bomb.html?oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=
October 27, 2004
MISSING EXPLOSIVES
No Check of Bunker, Unit Commander Says
By JIM DWYER and DAVID E. SANGER
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Colonel Anderson, who is now the chief of staff for the 101st and spoke by telephone from Fort Campbell, Ky., said that he did not see any obvious signs of damage when he arrived on April 10, but that his focus was strictly on finding a secure place to collect his troops, who were driving and flying north from Karbala.
"There was no sign of looting here," Colonel Anderson said. "Looting was going on in Baghdad, and we were rushing on to Baghdad. We were marshaling in."
The New york Times is a bad joke. My Lord, this is laughable.
LOL, spin spin spin.
spin spin spin ...... your dead nyt....... dead.....
kerry just lost the election...... just lost it ....
he dissed the military just like he did in 71...... he just lost the election....
Clearly the NY Slime and Kerry would only be happy if more GI's died defending the explosives....
Let's go loot the New York Times! I need something for the bottom of he cage.
(Joke)
What maybe some of the vietcong might know something about this too.
The are trying to spin their way out of the hole.
They are a disgrace to journalism.
"It is possible that Iraqi forces removed some explosives before the invasion."
With that one little sentence, the Kerry campaign suffers a mortal hit from the New York Times.
Pure kaka coming from the NYSlimes.
Is Dan "Denial" Rather editing the NYTimes now?
Now the NY Slimes is using IRAQIs as the be all-end all of the truth?? BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
You know, I just wonder, do these guys come to work wearing the hammer and sickle on their coats, or do they wait until they get into the office to slip into their totalitarian uniforms?? What a complete and utter propaganda machine for the leftwingnuts the NY Slimes is!!
And to think, I used to respect them...heh.
But today, I am gladly a
Recovering_Democrat!
The NYT uses lies and innuendos.
This article says nothing about the LIE that the explosives were removed after U.S. forces arrived.
This article is a fu*king smokescreen.
This is what's known as a multi-story correction
This is like the pitiful Nightline "the Viet Cong back up Kerry's story" bs piece.
Didn't they learn from the CBS debacle????? Just report ALL sides and points of the story. That is all we ask. Don't leave out details that may discredit your theory. The NY Times is supposed to be the paper of record....it is what we expect.
These people at the "Old Grey Whore" are a joke
Of course, the NYT will always believe the word of someone else (in this case Iraqis) over our own Military.
I'd just like to know why the IAEA didn't destroy the explosives when the UN Inspectors told them to do so in 1995!
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