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60,000 missing absentee ballots in Florida
Sun-Sentinel ^ | 10/27/04 | Jean-Paul Renaud

Posted on 10/27/2004 6:57:22 AM PDT by truthandlife

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To: Glenn
"How would they know?"

That is exactly the question.

They know how many were posted and just how would they know that 60k or however many are "missing" until the "receive by" date (if such exists - I think most states have a "postmark by" date) comes along.

Or do they have some cosmic way of determining just how many of the absentee ballots requested and sent were actually delivered? This is snail mail, not e-mail after all, and the election committees don't get "receipts" for mail (ballots) delivered! In short, how can they know the ballots are missing before they are missing?

Smacks of a 'Rat "trap" sprung too early to me. I'd have figured they'd wait until election day, when most states actually count the absentee ballots, then claim the "missing votes" were from traditional Dem voting groups and would likely even claim that the traditional conservative military voters have had an epiphany and actually voted for Kerry (this group is comprised I've heard, of large numbers of personnel who have stated they would not "re-up" if Kerry were elected -- yeah, they're going to vote for him).

Again, I think it may well have been a well set "trap" that was prematurely sprung

61 posted on 10/27/2004 8:28:01 AM PDT by theoldChief (Pacifists are the parasites of freedom)
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To: XenaLee
Wait a minute here! The Reps have been in control and have had FOUR YEARS to fix this crap. Jeb Bush had PLENTY of time to fix it in Florida and Bush had plenty of time to fix it nationwide, if that had been their goal. Apparently, it was a low priority for them. I'm starting to wonder why.

You are rather obviously a troll, so I won't go to any great lengths to explain what you don't want to understand, except to say that Jeb Bush and the Repub legislature provided millions of bucks to Broward County to buy new (unnecessary) voting machines after '2000. Since voting procedures are the responsibility of the state legislatures (although that function was pre-empted by the FL Supremes in '2000), President Bush has nothing to do with this.

According to Florida law, each county is responsible for selecting the type of voting machines as well as procedures/organization, in accordance with state and federal law.

A Republican ran the Broward County elections for 20 years with no problems, using punch cards. She quit after the '2000 Dem recount fiasco, and was replaced by a corrupt Dem supervisor -- an African-American. How corrupt was she? Her own Dem party screamed loud and long for two years -- not because they were embarrassed by daily scandalous headlines in the local liberal rag, but because they wanted to pin the removal of a minority officeholder on Jeb Bush.

Sure enough, after Bush removed her, the same liberal rags who ran headlines about her malfeasance, ran charges by local black leaders that the removal was racially motivated.(She was replaced by another African-American, who by Dem PC rules, is now untouchable: I would trust the Post Office before I would trust her.)

The bottom line is that if you are a Republican, you can't win in Broward County -- and all of this election hoopla is part of the plan to conceal voter fraud and force a recount in a county politically owned and operated by the Democratic party.

62 posted on 10/27/2004 8:29:02 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: truthandlife
I hear Dan Rather is going to report on this:
"The administration failed to saveguard 60,000 absentee voter ballots delivered in the mail in Florida. A major crisis close to an election."

Then John Kerry will pick up on it:
"The administration again expressed its incompetence in failing to deliver 60,000 absentee ballots in Florida. Vote for me and I will guarantee every absentee ballot is delivered."

Then Rush Limbaugh will debunk it:
"How do they know there's 60,000 absentee ballots missing, and if they do know, how do they prove it. They can't!"

Feel free to add to this...
63 posted on 10/27/2004 8:34:57 AM PDT by JimHorn
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To: truthandlife

and so it begins ...


64 posted on 10/27/2004 8:37:03 AM PDT by MattGarrett
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To: truthandlife

---The Broward County Supervisor of Elections Office pointed a finger at the U.S. Postal Service on Tuesday for nearly 60,000 missing absentee ballots---

Suspicious...


65 posted on 10/27/2004 8:48:34 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: clintonh8r
Probably USPS union goons destroying or diverting the ballots.

I hate say it but that was my 1st instinct as well.

66 posted on 10/27/2004 8:57:35 AM PDT by Radix (Watch this Tag Line for an October surprise.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Too bad most of the Flori-duh elections comittees are run by the RATS...otherwise this problem would be fixed.


67 posted on 10/27/2004 8:58:00 AM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: txradioguy

Check Union Hall...they and all other unaccounted for ballots should be there.


68 posted on 10/27/2004 9:02:43 AM PDT by Abram
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To: truthandlife
roward County commissioners, anxious to void another failed election

A very Freudian typo.

69 posted on 10/27/2004 9:04:56 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: moonman

No disrespect but what the heck were you doing mailing an absentee ballot? Are you really out of the state, or was that just a convenience for you? Knowing what we know about the vote fraud out there, no one should EVER mail an absentee ballot unless he absolutely has no other option. Hand-deliver your ballot if at all possible.


70 posted on 10/27/2004 9:21:05 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: Arrowhead1952; Old Sarge; truthandlife
To ALL Florida GOP:

GO to the polls and vote for Bush. Take your friends with you to do the same. If you know any Zell Miller type Democrats that support Bush and they are voting for him, take them as well.

Vote EARLY to avoid the rush. If you wait until November 2nd, make SURE to go and vote!! And if you do wait until November 2nd, remember:

IGNORE ANYTHING IN THE MEDIA YOU HEAR (i.e., making a fast, early call in Florida for Kerry, etc.). THE FLORIDA ELECTION DEBACLE OF 2000 CAN AVOID A REPEAT THIS YEAR IF GOP TURNOUT IS STRONG, imho.


71 posted on 10/27/2004 9:35:09 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: soccermom

O.K. Mom ... sorry (hangs his head in shame> sniff


72 posted on 10/27/2004 9:44:26 AM PDT by moonman
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To: clintonh8r

I'd imagine that the Postal Service supervisors have instructed their employees to give the highest priority to absentee ballots. The PO doesn't want to be blamed for any snafus, and no employees would endanger their jobs by hiding or misdirecting ballots.


73 posted on 10/27/2004 9:54:25 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Feeling so much calmer now I've cancelled my cable TV. Don't miss the Demopuke spin on cable news.)
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To: Glenn

Found it (my thread was pulled)...I guess I still need to get a handle on
the search function. Sorry for the double post.

This is an outrageous situation. Republicans are more likely to vote absentee, and it's especially important given the incidents in Broward of Democrats harassing Bush supporters at early voting sites.


74 posted on 10/27/2004 10:22:56 AM PDT by MohawkDrums
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To: airborne
I guess these poor babies will have to go to the voting booths on November 2 and do it the old fashioned way. What a terrible inconvenience! Boo-freakin-hoo!

??? That is akin to saying someone in Central Pennsylvania needs to go to Pittsburgh or Philadelphia to vote. Why would you take that stand when a student filed a proper request for an absentee ballot but didn't receive one?

75 posted on 10/27/2004 10:25:43 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: Slip18
Is Ft. Lauderdale part of Broward County? If so, stop all cruising from that area. All of it.

It is. Come on up to a nice republican county (Brevard) and take your cruise out of Port Canaveral. Come a day early and take in the visitor's center at Kennedy Space Center.

77 posted on 10/27/2004 10:30:13 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: airborne

"I guess these poor babies will have to go to the voting booths on November 2 and do it the old fashioned way. What a terrible inconvenience! Boo-freakin-hoo!" You're missing the point. What if someone intercepted these ballots and has already filled them out? These kids go to the polls on election day and are told they can't vote because they already voted -- or they do vote but their voted is cancelled out by whomever stole their ballot. If this were just incompetence I wouldn't be all that worried. It is the other explanation that scares me.


78 posted on 10/27/2004 10:35:50 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: moonman

LOL! I used to vote absentee out of convenience all the time. This year, I have a baby due two days after the election, but I will be going to the polls instead.


79 posted on 10/27/2004 10:37:34 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: SheLion

Absentee ballots in Florida broke heavily Republican last time around. Big shock that so many are "missing" huh?


80 posted on 10/27/2004 10:39:44 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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