Posted on 10/04/2004 3:49:27 AM PDT by television is just wrong
Our hospitals are going bankrupt because they treat people who don't pay.
It would still happen if there were no Mexicans.
If Americans want hospitals to continue to exist in approximately the number and distribution we have now, there are only two real choices:
1) Nationalize the hospitals.
2) Allow them to turn away deadbeats.
Everything else is just spin.
Exactly, the key word is RECIPROCATION. No thanks in return.
Health insurance is not a right. Code of medical ethics mandates the emergency care whenever feasible. Those who reject that code are not medically ethical, aka Hillary Clinton.
Health insurance is not a right. Code of medical ethics mandates the emergency care whenever feasible. Those who reject that code are not medically ethical, aka Hillary Clinton.
They aren't going bankrupt,..thy're merely closin their trauma centers. Go figure.
Come to California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas visit an emergency room. Then make that statement.
The emergency rooms are loaded with an exorbinent amount of illegal Mexicans, some are there just because they are too poor to buy a bottle of cough syrup,(which was my experience). Where ever you are, it will be coming to your hospitals soon. Illegal aliens are everywhere, and our nation demands we protect them in every way. Yet, no reciprocation from the Mexican govt. is returned.
The end is in sight.
They are closing their trauma centers in order that they don't go bankrupt.
What's next? OB? Surgery?
Please provide a link or reference to any medical ethical code which mandates anything of the sort.
I do think we should treat people regardless of their ability to pay but at the COUNTY HOSPITALS, not the private ones. It is very unfair to make a paying American citizen have to wait in line for hours in the er's, behind Mexican nationals that won't pay a nickel.
No cause and effect.
Come to New Hampshire, where the ERs are full of Americans who don't pay.
It's the not paying that's the problem, not the Mexicans.
They are going bankrupt. I visited an emergency room earlier this year. Not only did I get a bill for $14,000.00 for my sons surgery, I got a letter asking for a donation to cover for people who cannot afford to pay their bills, (non citizens). was in the letter. A hospital in Canoga Park Ca, closed last year because of its lack of funding, not just the traume center, another hospital in Sherman Oaks Ca, closed many years ago, is used for filming tv, movie spots now. NOT JUST THE TRAUMA CENTER, and this is Los Angeles, not a border town. Importing of poverty at our expense.
That is federal law, not medical ethical mandates. Mexico is not part of U.S.
There are 3141 counties in the US.
I bet there are not 500 "county hospitals", and most of them are unprpared for medical emergencies.
WHY do you think we should "treat people regardless of their ability to pay"?
And why not houses and food, regardless of ability to pay?
The hospitals need to demand cash up front. Payment is expected when services are rendered. I used to see that sign in all medical facilities until recent years.
Property taxes support county hospitals.
Hippocratic Oath -- Modern Version
I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.
I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.
I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.
from http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_modern.html
Bigger government is not the answer. Nationalizing hospitals means feds will be running them. That is Hillary's idea.
It is in the American Southwest.
Most medical schools require the Hippocratic Oath or it's modern day equivalent to be sworn prior to conferring any professional degree upon its matriculants.
Still does not apply to Mexico, or this article.
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