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To: John Valentine

It would seem the Chechen Ministry of Foreign Affairs agrees with the article:

Chechen Republic of Ichkeria
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Official Statement
09/12/2003

http://www.chechnya-mfa.info/print_news.php?func=detail&par=101

PRESS-RELEASE: TERRORISM IN RUSSIA IS ORGANIZED AND MANAGED BY THE RUSSIAN SECURITY AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE SERVICES FOR PROPAGANDA AND SCAPEGOATING PURPOSES


Terrorism in Russia is organized and managed by the Russian security and military intelligence services for propaganda and scapegoating purposes. We do not think that the latest bombing in Moscow is an exception to this rule.

The fact that Russian security services in committing terrorist acts in Russia and elsewhere occasionally use their agents of Chechen origin does not make the Chechen people and the Chechen government responsible for the Kremlin's dreadful crimes. The Chechen government will not, under any circumstances, accept violence against civilians and civilian objects. We repeat that we condemn terrorism in all its forms.

We regret that the western governments fail to see that it is Russian governmental structures that organize these terrorist acts and that it is Russian agents that carry out these terrorist acts. There is a plenty of evidence to this.

For instance, Mr. Khanpasha Terkibaev, an ethnic Chechen serving for the Russian Secret Service and who is one of the main organizers and direct participant of the hostage taking in the Moscow Theater Center at Dubrovka in October 2002, is a clear proof that terror in Russia comes from the Russian government.

Mr. Khanpasha Terkibaev even after the hostage taking has continued to work for the Russian state structures, including the deputy head of President Putin's administration Mr. Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov and Putin's aide Mr. Sergei Vladimirovich Yastrzhembsky. As the hostage taking ended in killing not only Russian but also western nationals, we believe that western governments should no longer close eyes to Kremlin’s role in terrorism. [1]"

Press Office

See, for instance, Anna Politkovskaya’s article in Novaya Gazeta, issue # 30, 28 April 2003.


11 posted on 09/21/2004 9:03:50 PM PDT by GIJoel
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To: GIJoel

For more on this issue, go to:

We Are The Next Target

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1220747/posts

--and--

Terrorists In Muslim Disguise

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1220737/posts?q=1&&page=51


12 posted on 09/21/2004 9:10:02 PM PDT by GIJoel
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To: GIJoel

The "Chechen Republic of Ichkeria"?

Is this some kind of joke? Does this outfit have any more credibility than the Jamhaa Islamiia or any of the various flavors of terrorist orgainization going around slitting throats and killing children?

For that matter, why are you carrying water for terrorists?

And why are you allowed to remain on this board?


13 posted on 09/21/2004 9:10:22 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: GIJoel
You use the CHECHENS as a reliable source?

Just "freedom fighters" are they?

Sheesh!!! We actually have a terrorist supporter on Free Republic!

17 posted on 09/21/2004 9:24:35 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: GIJoel
"We regret that the western governments fail to see that it is Russian governmental structures that organize these terrorist acts and that it is Russian agents that carry out these terrorist acts. There is a plenty of evidence to this."
everyone is entitled to their opinion and a right to interpret facts as they see them. here's mine:

vladmir putin did not structure and organize the murder of hundreds of little kids, in the MOSTLY Russian Orthodox section of Russia. And anybody who thinks so, is in MY opinion, nuttier than a fruit cake with extra walnuts.

90 posted on 09/21/2004 11:19:09 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: GIJoel
See, for instance, Anna Politkovskaya’s article in Novaya Gazeta, issue # 30, 28 April 2003.

Berezovsky runs Novaya Gazeta. And here is your friend Anna the staunch conservative praising Michael Moore's film and slamming both Bush and Putin.

Berezovsky

"Berezovsky, who was born in 1946, has also been described in another issue of Forbes as the head of the Russian mafia."

"Berezovsky took exception to this and has been attempting to sue Forbes for slander. Others have also raised questions about how Brerzovsky went about accumulating such wealth. He founded Logovaz, a holding company that began by "prevailing" upon Avtovaz, the country's largest automobile manufacturer, to sell the popular Lada at a sharp discount. Logovaz then resold these cars at a much higher price."

And if you click on the bottom link it describes Berezovsky's financial dealings as a mafia leader.

So you are here supporting chechens, a large number of whom are terrorists or support terrorism, liberals like Anna who praises Michael Moore, and mafia leaders like Berezovsky. All so you can assure yourself that you are not a commie.

What this has to do with a conservative forum is beyond me. I don't even think you know enough to know what you are touting here.

These are the same liars and losers that we disdain in American politics. It is surely ignorance which leads Americans to jump on board with them in Russia.

106 posted on 09/22/2004 7:40:56 AM PDT by MarMema (next year in constantinople!)
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