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Newstalk 1130 WISN’s Mark Belling Exposes Potential for Wisconsin DEMOCRAT VOTE FRAUD
Mark Belling Late Afternoon Show on NewsTalk 1130 WISN 9/16/04 ^ | 9/16/04 | Mark Belling

Posted on 09/16/2004 8:47:39 PM PDT by BigJohn44

On his 9/16/04 show, Milwaukee talk radio host Mark Belling (a semi-regular sub for Rush) exposed the NEW VOTERS PROJECT (http://www.newvotersproject.org/) apparent plan to potentially facilitate massive DEMOCRAT VOTE FRAUD in Wisconsin. The NVP, which claims to be non-partisan, is nothing of the sort, and is blatantly left-wing.

Belling postulated that the NVP may be laying the groundwork for fraud by soliciting thousands of students to fill out and sign voter registration application forms (http://elections.state.wi.us/pdf/EB-131%20Voter%20Registration%20App.pdf).

Wisconsin law is very friendly to vote cheaters, for at least four reasons:

(1) Acceptable forms of identification to accompany the voter registration form are: “current utility bill, bank statement, government check, pay check, or government document that shows the name and address of the voter.”

(2) Voters don’t have to produce any i.d. at the polls ONCE THEY ARE REGISTERED. The only time i.d. of any kind is required is when the voter REGISTERS.

(3) Absentee ballots are accepted for registered voters, again, without proof of i.d.

(4) Party operatives at the polls are allowed to examine the registration list to see who is checked off as having voted.

THE KEY POINT IS THAT ONCE A NAME APPEARS ON A REGISTRATION LIST, ANYONE, YES, ANYONE, CAN SHOW UP AND SAY THEY ARE THAT PERSON AND VOTE, OR VOTE ABSENTEE IN THAT PERSON'S NAME, WITH NO PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION. The only check on this, which can be easily avoided, is the chance that the actual registrant also shows up to vote.

It would be easy for a group like the NVP to collect signed registration applications and mail them in to the appropriate elections clerks with forged proof of i.d. How hard would it be to dummie up a utility bill?

There is some evidence that this how the NVP may be operating. Belling read on the air a couple of emails from students who had witnessed large numbers of registration forms being filled out and returned to NVP operatives WITHOUT proof of identification. The NVP ne’er-do-wells were not even asking the registrants for i.d., even though the form itself requires the that the signer mail this in with the form.

Massive fraud is therefore easy. In the case of the NVP operatives, all they would have to do is send in registration applications accompanied by forged proof of i.d. The NVP could retain a list of its sponsored registrants, many of whom, the NVP knows, may have no intention of voting.

Now they have their groundwork laid. The fraud could be accomplished well before the election. On election day, Democratic operatives at the polls would merely have to make a list of those NVP registrants who have not voted, forge and deliver to the clerk a pile of absentee ballots corresponding to these registrants, and/or send in a busload of impersonators to vote in the name of the registrants.

With these loose rules, Wisconsin has got to be the voter fraud capital of the country.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: belling; democraticvotefraud; markbelling; newvotersproject; voterfraud; wisconsinvotefraud
Wisconsin residents can register at the polls on election day. Besides laying the groundwork for fraud, what other reason would there be for New Voter Project operatives to solicit registration applications?
1 posted on 09/16/2004 8:47:40 PM PDT by BigJohn44
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To: BigJohn44

there is no real reason.

My only hope is that US attorney biskupic makes a very public statement that any voter fraud involving a federal election will be investigated and punished.


2 posted on 09/16/2004 8:50:00 PM PDT by flashbunny (visit flashbunny.org - you'll be glad you did.)
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To: BigJohn44

are the democRATS gonna give smokes to the derelicts again

this election to get em to the polls ?


3 posted on 09/16/2004 8:50:35 PM PDT by kingattax (Proud pajama-wearing FReeper)
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To: BigJohn44

Get out there--that's what they did in Milwaukee last time--Try to get an injunction against no i.d. same day registration...recruitpoll watchers everywhere..Make a stink..Get the D.A to make sounds about strict enforcment..get people with cams and cell phones to be poll watchers..


4 posted on 09/16/2004 8:52:14 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: BigJohn44

"Wisconsin DEMOCRAT VOTE FRAUD"

Certainly not.....breaking news.


5 posted on 09/16/2004 8:54:18 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: BigJohn44

Hugh Hewitt is right. We can't win this thing by a point or two. It needs to be a blowout. That's the only way we'll overcome the left's voter fraud.


6 posted on 09/16/2004 8:58:10 PM PDT by Gunder
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To: BigJohn44

Be especially aware around the Marquette campus stations where in the 2000 election students were allegedly caught voting 2,3 or even 4 times, and keep a close eye on the smokes for votes scandal!!


7 posted on 09/16/2004 8:59:18 PM PDT by lionstar (www.discussdrudge.com)
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To: BigJohn44

Somebody higher up the chain needs to fix this. Like NOW.


8 posted on 09/16/2004 8:59:43 PM PDT by Just Lori (John F. Kerry NEVER missed a medical appt.)
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To: BigJohn44

Oh yeah? Well in California you don't even need id to register! Speaking of voter fraud! Although the law may have changed recently to reflect the above rules.


9 posted on 09/16/2004 9:01:18 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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I'm worried about it here in NM too...Where Algore won by under 400 votes in 2000, because "an extra" ballot box showed up in one county at the last moment, and in three counties the absentee ballots were never counted.

There was an article in our local weekly paper about this last week: I live in a big but sparsely populated, mostly conservative county with a TOTAL year-round population around 18,000 people. The county clerk has received about 7,000 voter registrations in the last three months. And some leftist judge from "up north" has decreed that the no ID's can be chjecked.


10 posted on 09/16/2004 9:03:43 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: lionstar
Republicans should post operatives (probably not the correct term) in and around Marquette University and other hot-bed places.
11 posted on 09/16/2004 9:24:43 PM PDT by Troy J Mathews
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To: BigJohn44

pos fraud bump


12 posted on 09/16/2004 9:30:28 PM PDT by the crow (I'm from the government. I'm here to help.)
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To: BigJohn44
(4) Party operatives at the polls are allowed to examine the registration list to see who is checked off as having voted.

That is nothing new; in our district there are a Republican and a Democrat "challenger" at each general election. But I've never seen anyone challenged. Their primary function is to check off voters in their own party so they know who has not voted. Then late in the day the phone calls offering assistance in getting to the polls are made, part of the "get out the vote" effort.

That information could be used illicitly, except that there are only 800 or so voters in our small district, and after a few years the poll workers get to know who is who.

13 posted on 09/16/2004 9:31:01 PM PDT by JimRed (Kerry for President... of FRANCE!)
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To: JimRed
There is a certain amount of vote fraud by both parties in every election. It is expected and tolerated.

2000 was notable only for the hubris of the Dem GOTV campaign

14 posted on 09/16/2004 9:47:53 PM PDT by 1stMarylandRegiment (CBS Boycott day 003 and counting)
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To: 1stMarylandRegiment
There is a certain amount of vote fraud by both parties in every election

I don't buy this. What examples can you give of Republican voting fraud? I offer Chicago, New York City, San Francisco, St. Louis, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Miami, Los Angeles, Newark, and Cleveland as cities where we can EXPECT voter fraud from the Democrats. What cities should we watch for Republican fraud?

15 posted on 09/16/2004 10:01:04 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("We will always remember. We will always be proud." Ronald Reagan)
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To: BigJohn44

Where are those BLUE-HELMET "observers" that we are supposed to have watching our elections?

I really hope they are in uniform - we can then assume they are military invaders and treat them accordingly.


"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."
Ronald Reagan


16 posted on 09/16/2004 10:03:59 PM PDT by steplock
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To: ladyinred
Well in California you don't even need id to register! Speaking of voter fraud!

Which is exactly why Bob Dornan lost.

17 posted on 09/17/2004 8:09:44 AM PDT by BigJohn44
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To: steplock

Someone emailed me and asked what can be done to combat this potential voter fraud. Here is what I suggested, for whatever it's worth. Any comments or ideas would be most welcome.

--Going to my election ward office and asking if I can see any registration forms submitted by New Voters Project along with the proof of identification submitted with the form. Maybe I can find some bogus proofs of identification. Maybe the NVP operative's name is on the forms or a transmittal letter. Maybe call that person and ask them, hey, why didn't you obtain i.d. from the people whose registrations you sponsored? Might deter some fraud that way.

--I'm not sure whether having someone at the polls would help. But if you wanted to go to your polling place, I would go late, like an hour before closing. If you notice an organized group, or a busload of "voters" pull up, there might be some fraud in the works. A video camera might be useful in this situation.

--I believe that absentee ballots are not due until election day. Maybe go to your polling place and ask, who is in charge of accepting absentee ballots? Can I be notified if someone walks in with a large number of absentee ballots? Get the clerk's name and ask the person, do these ballots get checked for fraud? Why would someone deliver a large stack of absentee ballots on election day? Aren't those normally mailed in?

--I don't know if the election office will give out the names of those people or organizations who request large numbers of absentee ballots. But if they will, then one could contact those organizations and ask them flat out, to whom are you planning to give all these absentee ballots? Are these people registered to vote and if so, why can't they come to the polls themselves? It might let the fraud perpetrators know that somebody is onto them.

--Tell anyone who will listen to try all or some of these steps.


18 posted on 09/17/2004 1:33:02 PM PDT by BigJohn44
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To: BigJohn44

As this article indicates supporting your local clerks in any way you can and demanding that the rules are followed is good advice.

New Voters Project registers 74,000 young people in state
http://www.gazettextra.com/eln_newvoters090904.asp




Watch for New Voters Project operatives to try and deputize themselves as official registrants.That is what they are now trying to do in Wisconsin.

Its quite obvious by that action why they were not worried about following proper procedure during the registering process.They think they can rubberstamp the improper forms after they get their foot in the door as official registrants. Or it also gives them until election day to manufacture false ID.


19 posted on 09/28/2004 8:24:00 PM PDT by mjfdl
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To: All


Please Pass Emergency Anti-Vote Fraud Measure Immediately!

Vote fraud threatens the very core of our republic, and it directly threatens our sovereignty

Please send the following message to your Congressmen and Senators:

Please pass, on an expedited basis, emergency legislation to require voters to show ID at all polling places on Election Day.

Vote fraud threatens the very core of our republic, and it directly threatens our sovereignty. There is a significant amount of evidence emerging that evinces a wide-spread plot to engage in massive voter fraud. Thus, Congress must take immediate action to counter this potential menace.

Congress has the express power to dictate the time, place, and manner in which federal elections are held. The congressional power to make or alter time, place, or manner of federal elections extends to the regulation of voter registration. Federal regulation of the electoral processes, including the regulation of federal voter registration, is also consistent with the Tenth Amendment and permissible; although states do have broad discretion to enact and implement registration procedures, states may not transgress the Constitution. It follows that state voter registration and Election Day statutes that are inconsistent with federal voter registration and Election Day mandates are preempted.

As per the Federal Court in Byrd v. Brice, the government may require a voter to furnish proof of identity at the polling place on Election Day. Such a measure would go a long way in protecting citizens’ federal voting rights from fraudulent practices.

Please set to work immediately on enacting emergency legislation to require a valid ID at the polling places on Election Day.

http://capwiz.com/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=6486121&content_dir=ua_congressorg&mailid=custom


20 posted on 10/09/2004 8:34:23 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior ( ~ WE MUST STOP VOTING FRAUD THIS ELECTION!!! ~)
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