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Rancher (Kit Laney) admits assaulting federal officer in range dispute
The Westerner ^ | 9/15/04 | AP

Posted on 09/15/2004 10:33:17 PM PDT by cowpoke

A southern New Mexico rancher pleaded guilty Wednesday to assaulting or resisting a federal officer and obstruction of a court order. Kit Laney, 43, was arrested March 14 during a roundup of cattle belonging to him and his ex-wife, Sherry Farr, on the Gila National Forest. Authorities said he threatened to trample federal officers with his horse and tried to release some of the impounded livestock. Laney and Farr did not have a permit to graze the cattle. Laney had been charged in federal court with eight counts including assault with a deadly weapon, assault on federal officers and obstruction of justice. At sentencing, which has not been scheduled, federal prosecutors are to dismiss the remaining six counts against Laney. Authorities had alleged that Laney's horse, spurs and horse reins were the deadly weapons used to assault federal officers....More than 450 head of the cattle were sold at auction over the summer for about $211,000. Laney was sent a bill for an additional $250,000 by the federal government for time and expense of the roundup of his cattle. The convictions each carry a maximum penalty of up to a year in prison, a fine of up to $100,000 and a term of supervised release. Norm Kairns, spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Albuquerque, said the agreement stipulates that Laney's sentence will be on the low end of the penalties, which means he faces a 10-16 month sentence. The minimum sentence would be five months jail time and five months home confinement....

posted by The Westerner @ 10:43 PM

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; forestservice; grazing; kitlaney; landgrab; policestate; propertyrights
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1 posted on 09/15/2004 10:33:18 PM PDT by cowpoke
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To: farmfriend

ping


3 posted on 09/15/2004 10:39:01 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: cowpoke

I saw that on the Albuquerque news tonight. It's a shame, but he's lucky they dropped the other felony charges. He said he wants to move to Costa Rica and raise cattle on a ranch down there.


4 posted on 09/15/2004 10:43:00 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile.)
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To: cowpoke

Boy the government sure let this guy off easy. They rustled his herd, sold them at acution, the absconded with $210,000. Now they want to bill him an additional $250k, but will allow him to walk free after a year and a half. Dang, such bountiful mercy. It's just so compelling.

In truth it does sound as if this guy was in the wrong. Still I just don't get that worked up about a guy letting his cattle graze on 'government land'. If anyone owns that land, this farmer does as much as anyone.

The government of the United States own far too much land. 100% of that land should be deeded to the individual states. After that the federal government should keep it's paws off 'our' land.

Our family owned cattle when I was a kid. Cows don't do irreparable harm to land as they graze. We're problably talking about a vast amount of land. 450 head of cattle sounds like a large herd, but when we're talking about 100s of thousands of acres (which may or may not be off base), this herd is inconsequential.

Let's imagine that this guy was allowed to let his cattle graze. Nobody went after him and he continued to be a productive member of society.

I'm sure we're each thanking God that didn't happen.

The government might have cut this guy some of the slack they give to illegals who are actually devistating the physical land across the southern portions of our nation. I guess some laws just have to be enforced. Perhaps if he had a matricular conselar card, he could have presented it and been left alone.

Our government is whacked out. I doesn't intervene when it should, and it creates problems out of thin air when it should know better.


5 posted on 09/15/2004 10:52:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: cowpoke

A year and a half in the dungeons will teach him for letting his cattle stray onto the King's lands.


6 posted on 09/15/2004 11:30:03 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: DoughtyOne
The government of the United States own far too much land. 100% of that land should be deeded to the individual states. After that the federal government should keep it's paws off 'our' land.

Exactly

7 posted on 09/15/2004 11:31:36 PM PDT by SoDak
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Feds seize family's ranch

...The Diamond Bar Ranch is at least 180,000 acres and includes some of the most beautiful land in southwest New Mexico, situated between and including portions of the Gila and Aldo Leopold Wilderness areas.

Laney's ancestors began the "Laney Cattle Company" there in 1883 when the area was still a territory. In those days, "prior appropriation" of water determined grazing rights to the land. That meant the first person to make beneficial use of water obtained the "rights" to the water and to the forage within an area necessary to utilize the available water.

Laney's ancestors acquired the water rights and the attendant grazing rights on the land now claimed by the federal government.

In 1899, the federal government withdrew from the public domain the land that later became the Gila National Forest, which included much of the land on which Laney's ancestors had valid claim to water and grazing rights.

Several court cases have determined that land to which others have claims or rights attached cannot be considered "public land."

Specifically, "It is well settled that all land to which any claims or rights of others have attached does not fall within the designation of public land," according to Bardon vs. Northern Pacific Railroad Co.

Consequently, Laney reasons, since his ancestors had acquired legal rights to the water and adjacent grazing land before the federal withdrawal, his land could not be considered a part of the public domain...

8 posted on 09/15/2004 11:42:19 PM PDT by concentric circles
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9 posted on 09/16/2004 3:19:40 AM PDT by cowpoke
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danke schoen.


10 posted on 09/16/2004 3:37:04 AM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
11 posted on 09/16/2004 1:18:48 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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BTTT!!!!!


12 posted on 09/16/2004 1:27:21 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: cowpoke

I don't think it should be a crime to assault a federal officer. It should be a federal crime for a federal officer to assault a U.S. citizen.


13 posted on 09/16/2004 1:27:25 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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bttt


14 posted on 09/16/2004 1:40:33 PM PDT by righthand man (WE'RE SOUTHERN AND PROUD OF IT)
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To: NRA2BFree; 1Old Pro; aardvark1; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; alaskanfan; alloysteel; alfons; ...
"He said he wants to move to Costa Rica and raise cattle on a ranch down there."

So I guess we'll have to figure out a way to BBQ soybeans now? This attack on ranchers has to be stopped.

15 posted on 09/16/2004 2:30:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (There are thousands of men of higher moral character than Hanoi John Kerry waiting on Death Row)
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Boy the government sure let this guy off easy. They rustled his herd, sold them at acution, the absconded with $210,000. Now they want to bill him an additional $250k, but will allow him to walk free after a year and a half. Dang, such bountiful mercy. It's just so compelling.

The Fed's stole the Indians Land now their fighting and stealing American
Citizens property. Some day our faces may be included in this picture.


16 posted on 09/16/2004 2:37:48 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker ("Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It.")
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To: editor-surveyor

BTTT!!!!!!


17 posted on 09/16/2004 2:49:00 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: SoDak

Some serfs just don't get it.


18 posted on 09/16/2004 3:08:10 PM PDT by Leisler (Kerry, release your Department of Defense SF 180)
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To: concentric circles

Wonder if Laney paid taxes on this quite large tract of land, or if it was considered public grazing land...


19 posted on 09/16/2004 3:14:54 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor; All

The meeting listed below is where some of the threats to ranchers are planned and coordinated. Unfortunately, they have seen too much success and Ranchers are fighting for their survival.
RangeNet 2004 Conference will be another spike in the coffin of the Ranchers.
November 11-13, 2004
Albuquerque, New Mexico
RangeNet 2004 Complete Conference information is available online at http://rangenet.org/rn2004/
Read how the environmentalists plan to "Work toward a cow-free wilderness."
The forest fires and the current forest conditions should serve as a wake up call for all Americans!
The Timber industry has been desecrated and now the ranchers and livestock producers are in jeopardy of suffering the same fate.
Will you stand with your fellow citizens and support their freedom and the right to a free market? Will you help them address problems created by the Endangered Species Act? Will you help them stand up to wealthy environmental groups whose litigious land management has burned its way across our nation and through the courts?
The choice is yours, do you enjoy your juicy Prime Rib and T-Bones? Will your industry or home be the next target of these groups?
It is time for common people to stand up for common sense!
Reform the Endangered Species Act!
www.azfire.org


20 posted on 09/16/2004 3:17:22 PM PDT by azkathy (Branded by the Rodeo Chediski Fire)
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