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In debates, expect the unexpected
Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 7, 2004 | Godfrey Sperling

Posted on 09/07/2004 3:06:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: beyond the sea

Yes, you have a good point there.


21 posted on 09/07/2004 3:56:42 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I expect the debates to be a fight for the middle/undecided. If they turn-out to be anything more, I will be pleasantly surprised.


22 posted on 09/07/2004 3:58:24 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: beyond the sea

A bunch of liberals. All four mods that were picked are liberals. I think Jim Lehrer is one and Gwen whatever her name is from PBS too. Can't remember the others!


23 posted on 09/07/2004 3:58:46 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Bommer

Hah! And he won't even recognize it! LOL!


24 posted on 09/07/2004 4:00:49 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: MistyCA
I watched as O'Neill debated the issues with Kerry in the 70's and I didn't get the feeling that Kerry was superior in any way.

I've watched the 1971 debate twice and am willing to concede that Kerry had technically superior debating skills. If you recall O'Neill repeatedly conceded the same thing by referring to Kerry's "polished phrases", etc.

But the truth is that O'Neill held up pretty well on the basis of his passion and on the facts. Kerry, I think, would have "lost" that debate were it not for the times and the support within the Cavett audience (which made Kerry look better than he actually was).

The point is that Kerry's technical debating skills will not be the only factor aaffecting who wins or loses. There are other intangibles that enter into the equation.

25 posted on 09/07/2004 4:01:10 AM PDT by angkor
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To: sirchtruth

Plus, his wife sucks!


26 posted on 09/07/2004 4:01:48 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: angkor

Well, in my estimation O'Neill provided much more information then Kerry did. Kerry simply ducked the issues and got through the debate without answering the questions. I didn't feel satisfied by Kerry's answers. Perhaps that is because we know more now then we did back then. When he offered up the vet who would give information about atrocities, no one knew that he had threatened Steven Pitkin and who knows how many others. I sure do hope that piece of information becomes more public now.


27 posted on 09/07/2004 4:09:21 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Expect the Unexpected

Bush: Before we get started, I got someone here I'd like y'all to meet. Could you guys bring Mr. Bin Laden out here please?

28 posted on 09/07/2004 4:16:46 AM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: angkor
"The point is that Kerry's technical debating skills will not be the only factor aaffecting who wins or loses. There are other intangibles that enter into the equation."

That's as close as anyone else here to what I was thinking ...

Everything will hinge on the question.

"Does you're mother know you're a thief?"

There's a word that describes that kind of 'logic' but I don't know what it is. Convoluted?

29 posted on 09/07/2004 4:17:29 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Eccl 10:2
Bush will do better if he's misunderestimated again.

LIBERALS are so full of themselves. LOL. Reagan and Bush walk circles around them.

30 posted on 09/07/2004 4:18:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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The debates bother me. Bush will look like a short little man next to lurch, and I hope it does not make him look like Dean did.


31 posted on 09/07/2004 4:19:26 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: dawn53
Can't remember the others!

Schiefer.I think

Yer right...alll lefties...NO Hume!

32 posted on 09/07/2004 4:20:59 AM PDT by evad (We cannot afford 9-10 thinkers in a 9-11 world)
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To: MistyCA

Please read #31 and comment.


33 posted on 09/07/2004 4:22:22 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The writer needs to check his facts.

The Nixon-Kennedy Debates had zero to do with the election of Kennedy; voter fraud had everything to do with it in Cook County, ILL, and elsewhere. The debates were merely public perception and window dressing.


34 posted on 09/07/2004 4:25:56 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think the only debate that really matters is the first debate. That's the one where the undecideds will get the chance to size up the candidates one on one. If Bush is seen as the winner or as holding his own, that's all that matters, IMO. The other debates will be anti-climactic.

Actually, I am looking forward more to the VP debate. Expecting some priceless Cheney quotes to come out of that one.


35 posted on 09/07/2004 4:31:35 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: backhoe

"To put it another way, I think most Americans today see anything and everything they view on TV as entertainment- it's all of equally little value, except for titillation or a laugh."

Totally disagree. Regardless of the outcome it will be the spinmeisters afterwards that will formulate peoples opinions. Kerry already won the debates. Just a question of by how much.



36 posted on 09/07/2004 4:33:16 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: freeplancer

Interesting. Bush is much smaller than he is perceived to be, but I don't think he will appear so in the debates. Besides, there is nothing so great about the way Lurch looks. :)


37 posted on 09/07/2004 4:43:36 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kerry might be easy to rile up. He will be vulnerable on Iraq, Flip-flops, gay marriage, etc.

I hope Bush just plays it straight and cool, but at the same time not too shy about hitting it pretty heavy on Kerry's inconsistency.

Bush needs to be prepared (while not getting dragged down into the details) for a severe attack on the economy, and be ready to point out the Clinton years having more unemployment, etc.

38 posted on 09/07/2004 4:50:16 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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39 posted on 09/07/2004 4:51:32 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: freeplancer

Algore was bigger than Dubya but it didn't help him--a sighing tree next to a man!


40 posted on 09/07/2004 4:53:57 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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