Posted on 09/06/2004 11:35:30 PM PDT by 11th_VA
Tune In -
Eye witness that served with Bush in Alabama - I guess he's ready to tell his story if the RATs are dumb enough to raise this issue again ...
IF they are dumb enough to raise it again? They already have raised it again.
I saw it! :-)
Lt. Col John Calhoun. I think the libs in the media were hoping that this guy would not come forward. This is the officer who the sheet of paper that the Airman had to sign when they showed up for duty.
I saw him earlier. He pointed out how he Bush showed up and signed in on the Duty Sheet that he kept on his desk.
The AP stuff that is out today is a joke. Calhoun points out that the rating sheet in Texas reads 'not rated' because Bush was in Alabama with the Alabama Guard on temp duty. Calhoun pointed out that it is a form that the Texas Guard has to fill out...since Bush fell under their command...and since he was in transfer with the Alabama guard...that is the only statement they can put on the form.
Calhoun pointed out that in no way means Bush did not show up for service.
They are dumb enough to get kitty kelly to write a tell all..which if even a tenth of was true prince al the bore would have used 4 years ago. she went and surf the net and got every tin foil thing she could find and cobbled together a book to make some money. notice she didn't do one on slick willie, the kennedy's or kerry.
Probably, although I have no proof, just gut logic. She scoured the web to find this crap and cobbled it into a book.
"Probably, although I have no proof, just gut logic. She scoured the web to find this crap and cobbled it into a book."
I agree. She also talked to Neil Bush's wife....whatshername? She is disgruntled with the whole family and needs money, so she is going to talk about only bad things if it means $$$.
Missed this -- hope they run it again!
I don't think you can denigrate Bush's service in the Guard unless you actually served with him in the Guard.
Sorry ... that's another of those asymmetric things that only applies to Kerry, but not to others.
Never mind.
Ok, let's compare a few notes. In the absolute worst case scenario, Bush missed some weekend duty with his National Guard unit. I'm not suggesting it happened, but that's what the Kerry folks are trying to get everyone to believe. In Kerry's case, he lied under oath about his and other soldiers' war crimes, urged others to lie about war crimes, and gave comfort and aid to the enemy while still a naval officer in time of war. In Bush's case it's still unproven, in Kerry's case his own words prove it. My money is on Bush.
Just shows how desperate the Kerry campaign has become
I heard one report she claims W was using cocaine at Camp David "as recently as 1980".
Considering who was President in 1980, I find this claim to be highly doubtful.
See also:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040908/D84V54IG0.html
Lawsuit Uncovers New Bush Guard Records
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush ranked in the middle of his Air National Guard flight class and flew 336 hours in a fighter jet before letting his pilot status lapse and missing a key readiness drill in 1972, according to his flight records belatedly uncovered Tuesday under the Freedom of Information Act.
The Pentagon and Bush's campaign have claimed for months that all records detailing his fighter pilot career have been made public, but defense officials said they found two dozen new records detailing his training and flight logs after The Associated Press filed a lawsuit and submitted new requests under the public records law.
"Previous requests from other requesters for President Bush's Individual Flight Records did not lead to the discovery of these records because at the time President Bush left the service, flight records were subject to retention for only 24 months and we understood that neither the Air Force nor the Texas Air National Guard retained such records thereafter," the Pentagon told the AP.
"Out of an abundance of caution," the government "searched a file that had been preserved in spite of this policy" and found the Bush records, the letter said. "The Department of Defense regrets this oversight during the previous search efforts."
Bush's Vietnam-era service in the Texas Air National Guard has become an issue in the presidential campaign as the candidates spar over who would make the best commander in chief. Supporters of Democratic nominee John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran, have criticized Bush for serving stateside in the National Guard. Kerry's Republican critics claim Kerry did not deserve some of his five medals.
Bush has repeatedly said he is proud of his Air National Guard service. White House spokesmen said as late as last week the administration knew of no other records of Bush's military service.
"These documents confirm that the president served honorably in the National Guard," White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said Tuesday night.
The newly released records show Bush, a lieutenant in the Texas Air National Guard, ranked No. 22 in a class of 53 pilots when he finished his flight training at Moody Air Force Base in Georgia in 1969.
Over the next three years, he logged 326.4 hours as a pilot and an additional 9.9 hours as a co-pilot, mostly in his the F-102A jet used to intercept enemy aircraft. Of the 278 hours he flew in the interceptor, about 77 hours were in the TF-102A, the two-seat trainer version of the one-seat fighter jet.
The records show his last flight was in April 1972, which is consistent with pay records indicating Bush had a large lapse of duty between April and October of that year. Bush has said he went to Alabama in 1972 to work on an unsuccessful Republican Senate campaign. Bush skipped a required medical exam that cost him his pilot's status in August of that year.
Bush's 2000 campaign suggested the future president skipped his medical exam in part because the F-102A was nearly obsolete. Records show Bush's Texas unit flew the F-102A until 1974 and used the jets as part of an air defense drill during 1972.
A six-month historical record of his 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, also turned over to the AP on Tuesday, shows some of the training Bush missed with his colleagues during that time.
Significantly, it showed the unit joined a "24-hour active alert mission to safeguard against surprise attack" in the southern United State beginning on Oct. 6, 1972, a time when Bush did not report for duty, according to his pay records.
Bush's lone service in October was outside Texas, presumably with an Alabama unit he had permission to train with in September, October and November 1972.
As part of the mission, the 147th kept two F-102a jets - the same Bush flew before he was grounded - on ready alert to be launched within five minutes' warning.
The records also show Bush made a grade of 88 on total airmanship and a perfect 100 for flying without navigational instruments, operating a T-38 System and studying applied aerodynamics. Other scores ranged from 89 in flight planning to 98 in aviation physiology.
The newly released records do not include any from five categories of documents Bush's commanders had been required to keep in response to the gaps in Bush's training in 1972 and 1973. For example, National Guard commanders were required to perform an investigation whenever any pilot skipped a medical exam and forward the results up the Air Force chain of command. No such documents have surfaced.
Slick stopped being prez in 2000..started in 1992. 80's was Reagan and Bush 41
Great stuff !
Uh, yeah... but quote says 'as late as 1980.'
1980 would be Carter; Reagan/Bush didn't come in 'til 1/81...
Unless I'm missing something...
You're not missing anything.
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