Colorado Proposal Could Throw Election To Kerry

Gary Halbert - Forecasts & Trends Weekly E-Letter ^ | 8-25-2004 | Gar D. Halbert

[Cacique]

Interesting piece from a mailing list I belong to. Seemed worthy of posting.

The RATS are trying to circumvent the way the constitution is supposed to work. So what's new?

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[atomicpossum]

Split your votes, your state becomes all but overlooked in the election campaigning-- why would a candidate divert attention from a state where 51% gives them everything, to go to Colorado to try to get 60%? It's playing 'hard-to-get' when other states are more willing to put out.

[Rummyfan]

How can they place this proposal on the upcoming November 2nd ballot, to have it take effect at the same time?

[Cacique]

Ahh same Jimmy I have. Mine is white and has the US flag and eagle on back.

[Dutchgirl]

In fact, while they are pushing hard to get the initiative on the ballot, they are also preparing to challenge it legally – IF it doesn’t work out in their favor (ie- Kerry wins).

So the Democrats are for this iniative but planning to challenge against it? Makes perfect sense to me. I live in Florida and I've seen it before.

[Akira]

Very interesting. CO remains largely conservative with a popular conservative Governor in Owens, so I'd guess this measure will fail.

[Cacique]

Never underestimate the ability of the masses to shoot themselves in the foot.

[coloradomomba]

Governor Owens has already come out publicly calling for the defeat of this legislation. The people who came out for this initiative were supposedly from California, and man..were they pushing, I got into arguments with three of them on three separate occasions.."No, I am sorry, I don't agree with your position" was not acceptable to them. VERRRYYYY aggressive.

[Verginius Rufus]

This article was posted yesterday. One of the posters replying to it pointed out that the method of selecting electors must be determined by the state legislature, not by a referendum (and the Colorado legislature has already rejected this proposal).

See Article II, Sec. 1 of the Constitution: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors..."

[KellyAdmirer]

This measure will fail and fail badly. Everybody sees through this thinly veiled attempted power grab.

[skinkinthegrass]

..must be determined by the state legislature, not by a referendum (and the Colorado legislature has already rejected this proposal) See Article II, Sec. 1 of the Constitution: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors..."

I hope the voters know this. :/

[SirChas]

Be aware of this. I haven't heard about it until now.

[Semper Paratus]

The people who came out for this initiative were supposedly from California, and man..were they pushing,

I bet they wouldn't be for this in Cal EE fornia.

[SAJ]

Well, the Rats ignored this clause in the Constitution during their self-created Florida debacle...why would anyone expect them to adhere to this clause in Colorado or anywhere else?

[rhinohunter]

I do hope the CO GOP is going to fight this now and not just wait and hope that the referendum loses --

kind of like the way the national GOP approached McCain-Feingold -- they just sat back and hoped the SCOTUS would strike it down.

[cosine]

Like California, Colorado is an initiative state. It is relatively easy to get voter initiatives on the ballot but cheaper than in California as the population is much smaller. If this measure passes, the state constitution will be amended so the posted comment about the legislature casting the electoral college votes doesn't apply. And the measure specifies that it will take effect before the electors meet to vote on the 2004 election.

Colorado is not reliably conservative. Statewide elections can be very, very close. Big chunks of the Front Range are Democrat territory--Denver, Boulder, Fort Collins--and a lot of fuzzy thinkers everywhere believe in direct democracy/proportional representation no matter what. The Federalist Papers, with their emphasis on avoiding factionalism, are not much taught in Colorado public schools.

Proponents of this measure note that Gore would have won the last election had Colorado electoral votes been split. Just another way to ensure that one side wins.

[The Scourge of Yazid]

I wonder what novel attempt at thievery the donkeys are going to use to steal this particular election.

I guess I shouldn't worry, there are people at the DNC working around-the-clock on this pressing issue.

If It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat

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