[Dante3]

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[pettifogger]

And, we'll see this on ABCNNBCBS and read it in the WPNYT soon, I suppose.

sigh . . .

[dennisw]

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[Joe Brower]

Once again, we see the truth of Larry Elder's statement when he said, "If the left didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all".

[Fresh Wind]

...not a single scrap of paper or computer disk from his time with MoveOn.

An accurate statement. When translated from the Clintonese it reads:

...file cabinets full of paper, and hundreds of computer disks.

[mewzilla]

Form this link, Zack (sic) Exley in his own words:

What was the point of this "aren't they barbaric!" story?

At least the Afghani people in Marc Manson's story have the guts to be honest with themselves about their justice system.

What's worse: cutting off someone's hand for a petty theft, or locking someone up for decades for a crime they did not commit, or for something that no rational person would consider a crime? In our enlightened country we have tens of thousands of people in jail with sentences of 10 years or more for drug crimes they didn't commit, or for things like possession of pot, which clearly does not deserve jail time whether it's a crime or not.

For details on this one great source is Frontline's web site 'Snitch': http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/ They do a great job of explaining how our drug laws put people in jail for the drug crimes of others, while letting off the people who actually committed the crime.

Our justice system is just as public and inhumane as the one described in Carl's post. If we are more enlightened than those Afghanis, what good does it do if it doesn't cause us to even try to stop our own barbaric human rights abuses?

Another angle on this would be to look at the Gulf War as a form of justice. We punished the Iraqi people for the invasion of Kuwait. We bombed the land where "an eye for an eye" was invented, but we took that principal much further. For invading a country of 250,000 people (extremely rich people, most of whom were on vacation) we killed 500,000 Iraqis--mostly soldiers during the war.

Then, we continued to punish the people, and by established estimates a million or so people, mostly children, have died as a result of the sanctions which for a while didn't even let medicine, like penicillin, into the devastated country.

Isn't that justice more barbaric than anything the Taliban have done? A million and a half lives for the crime of invading a country of 50,000. --Especially considering that we committed the same crime by invading Panama only a couple years earlier.

Well, this may seem all a bit out of line. But perhaps people will think it is something worthy of discussing. The left these days is very obsessed with the crimes of other countries like China, and Afghanistan. And it just seems a shame that there is so little energy in comparison, these days, going into stopping the worst human rights abuser: ourselves (i.e. America).,/i>

-Zack

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[tbpiper]

What the Swifites have done to the whole campaign is quite interesting. Where ever the democrats attack, they do more damage to themselves. They call the Swifites liars and all the networks run programs discussing the ads running into a mountain of solid evidence. Now they critize them as a 'coordinated' 527 and MoveOn ends up in the inquisitive spotlight. The NYT, I think, had a very convoluted and imaginative flow chart to show the Swifities connection to the Bush campaign. Now that people are looking, they'll spot the many direct connections between kerry and MoveOn, et al.

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[RitaMcA]

I've been a loyal reader of the website. And write editorals to reelect our president. I'm new at posting!!!! Please
pray for the reelection of Pres Bush. Everyone at 10pm!!!

[AmericanMade1776]

[GBA]

When Kerry and co. decided to file a complaint with the FEC aledging a coordinated connection between the SwiftBoat Vets and Bush, I was speechless.

With Michael Moore sitting with Jimmy Carter at the DNC convention, with Soros spending millions and shooting off his mouth, with MoveOn.org being the media wing of the Democrat party, for Kerry to then file an FEC complaint against Bush was unbelievably shameless. How incredibly Clintonesque!

Will the Republicans chose to once again roll over and do nothing to answer the Democrats just like during the Clinton years?

[GailA]

One month they work for the 527's the next month they work for hanoi john, then they switch out again.