Posted on 08/19/2004 11:09:28 PM PDT by leadpencil1
WASHINGTON, Aug. 19 (UPI) -- Forget an October Surprise, a much worse one could come in September: Full-scale war between the United States and Iran may be far closer than the American public might imagine.
For Iranian Defense Minister Ali Shamkhani Wednesday warned frankly and openly that if his military commanders believed the United States was serious about attacking his country to destroy its nuclear power facility at Bushehr, or to topple its Islamic theocratic form of government, they would not sit back passively and wait for the U.S. armed forces to strike the first blow, as President Saddam Hussein in neighboring Iraq did in March 2003. They would strike first.
"We will not sit to wait for what others will do to us," Shamkhani told an interviewer on the Qatar-based al-Jazeera satellite television news network, which is widely watched throughout the Middle East.
"Some military commanders in Iran are convinced that preventive operations which the Americans talk about are not their monopoly."
The Iranian defense minister was speaking in response to an increasing barrage of tough, even ominous statements from senior U.S. officials that Iranian leaders and many Middle East diplomats believe parallel the drumbeat of rhetoric that prepared the American public for the war in Iraq a year and a half ago.
On Aug. 8, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said the world was "worried and suspicious" about Iran's nuclear program and she made clear the Bush administration was determined not to let the Iranians develop nuclear weapons from their new Russian-built reactor. So seriously did Rice intend the message to be taken that she repeated it twice in the same day in separate interviews to different network news shows.
Just this Tuesday, one of the hottest hawks in the Bush administration, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton told a sympathetic audience at the right-wing Hudson Institute in Washington that the Iranian nuclear program had to be taken up by the U.N. Security Council. "To fail to do so would risk sending a signal to would-be proliferators that there are no serious consequences for pursuing a secret nuclear weapons programs," he said. "We cannot let Iran, a leading sponsor of international terrorism, acquire nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to Europe, most of central Asia and the Middle East, or beyond," Bolton said. "Without serious, concerted, immediate intervention by the international community, Iran will be well on the road to doing so."
Bolton's tough talk came after reports that the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna appears unlikely to announce next month that Iran's nuclear program contains military elements. Nor, according to these published reports, is the IAEA expected to recommend referring the Iranian nuclear program to the U.N. Security Council as Bolton and his administration colleagues clearly want.
The comments from Bolton and Rice come within weeks of leading neo-conservative pundits and activists in Washington proclaiming that Iran's nuclear program had to be destroyed, even if waging war was the only way to do it.
Influential neo-conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer wrote July 23 column in The Washington Post: "The long awaited revolution (in Iran) is not happening. Which (makes) the question of pre-emptive attack all the more urgent. If nothing is done, a fanatical terrorist regime openly dedicated to the destruction of 'the Great Satan' will have both nuclear weapons and missiles to deliver them. All that stands between us and that is either revolution or pre-emptive attack."
Krauthammer's column was widely discussed in the Tehran press, further fueling the fears there that the United States may act in cahoots with Israel to launch a pre-emptive strike on the Iranian reactor. Iranians also remember that President George W. Bush included Iran with Iraq as fellow members of the "axis of evil" in his 2002 State of the Union speech. Just over a year after that, he unleashed the U.S. armed forces to topple Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.
Iranians therefore fear that the goal of Bush and his Pentagon hawks is now exactly what Krauthammer advocated in his July 23 column: to use the new, "strong fortress" of pro-American Iraq as the launch point to destabilize and topple the Islamic Republic of Iran. Both the desired counter-revolution in Iran and a U.S.-delivered or U.S.-backed pre-emptive strike "are far more likely to succeed with 146,000 American troops and highly sophisticated aircraft standing by just a few miles away in Iraq," Krauthammer wrote.
In reality, however, Iraq is anything but a "strong fortress." The embattled U.S. troops there are hunkered down, on the defensive, an undermanned, over-stretched, over-worked exhausted force isolated in a nation that has almost universally rejected them and about which they were deceived and given no adequate preparation whatsoever.
Indeed, if a full-scale war broke out with Iran, the United States might even have to send in hundreds of thousands of more troops to relieve and rescue its current over-extended force in Iraq, or go nuclear, or implement both extreme options in order to prevent current U.S. forces there from being cut off and even possibly over-run.
Shamkhani Wednesday made clear that this possibility had already occurred to his own military planners in Tehran. "The U.S. military presence will not become an element of strength at our expense," he said. "The opposite is true because their forces would turn into a hostage."
Shamkhani also made very clear that his country would regard any pre-emptive strike against the Bushehr reactor as a casus belli: sufficient cause to unleash full-scale, unrestricted war against the United States. "We will consider any strike against our nuclear installations as an attack on Iran as a whole and we will retaliate with all our strength," he said.
Some political leaderships specialize in using tough talk that they never seriously mean to back up with equally ruthless actions. But the Iranians are not like that. They lost around a half-million dead to repel Saddam in the eight-year Iran-Iraq war from 1980 to 1988. So when Shamkhani threatens the prospect of a major war against the United States: Believe him.
I hate to say this, but this may be the best thing that could happen to improve the future of the middle east.
During the Iran/Iraq war, Iran sent hundreds of thousands of massed troops in swarming raids against the Iraqis.
Are we prepared for such a pre-emptive attack on our forces in Iraq today?
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It is an unsettling prospect, but the situation cannot be ignored.
Are we prepared for such a pre-emptive attack on our forces in Iraq today?
All talk. All balk.
It wille interesting to see what Germany and France do this time.
What would that be?
Iran is next it would seem, as was always the plan.
if they try this ac-130 and daisy cutters close air support, and alot of tanks and helocopters, to attempt a preemptive attack on us would cost them dearly. threats dont mean much from people who cannot back them. and the politics of it, would likely gaurantee a rep victory and the quick exit from power
Ahhhhh. Thanks for the clarification.
Absolute BS. The propagandist lies of the left used to "preemptively" strike out against what may have to eventually be done.
Am I the only one disturbed by the fact that the head of the IAEA, which is supposed to protect America and the world from nuclear weapons in the hand of (mostly Islamic) terrorist states is named "Mohammed"?
As far as this article goes, I posted a reply yesterday about this very possibility:
I think we are being a little too confident regarding the possibility of an Iranian attack. Remember that the majority of Iraq is Shi'a, and if Iran were to attack the US forces in Iraq, a percentage of those Iraqi Shi'a now sitting on the sidelines would take up arms against us. Fighting to supress a major uprising (the likes of which we haven't seen in Iraq, yet) in a country we are occupying while under attack by an invading army is not something Gen. Abizaid (CENTCOM commander) is looking forward too. The Iranians would probably do whatever they could to mass thousands of Iranian troops in Iraq's civilian centers, precipitating urban warfare, and making use of the US reluctance to cause civilian casualties, or do excessive damage to infrastructure in a nation we are trying to rebuild.
In addition, every nation on the face of the earth that hates the US, or wishes it ill, would find a way to aid the Iranians and the Iraqi sh'ia "insurrection". Especially China, N. Korea, and even Russia and France. If Russia is selling the Iranians nuclear power plants that can be (mis)used to make nuclear bombs, they certainly won't balk at selling them excellent Russian anti-tank munitions, anti-air missiles and the like (if they haven't already).
My point is not to underestimate the danger if the Iranians decided to attack. We have been surprised before, mostly through contempt for our adversaries' capabilities, or belief that particular opponents wouldn't dare to attack us. After all, the US was caught with its pants down at Pearl Harbor, the Yalu River in N. Korea (250,000 Chinese troops attacked the US/UN forces), The Battle of the Bulge (where 500,000 German soldiers achieved almost complete surprise in launching their offensive) and in the Tet Offensive in Vietnam (yes, I know that the US won that battle decisively, but the sense of military disarray the media presented had severe political repurcussions).
Would the Iranians have to be crazy to attack us? Would it give us a perfect pretext to oust the most terrorist-friendly government on earth? Draw your own conclusions. But imagine the shock our nation would face if we were suddenly involved in a major land war, with our troops and capabilites already stretched thin. I am aware of the superior capabilities of our troops and weapons systems, but I still can't wish for an Iranian attack upon US forces, even if it seems that we must come to grips with them eventually.
I'm sure the CENTCOM planners are as ready if they can be if this Iranians actually back up their blather.
Another wildcard is Iran's perception of how an attack might impact the US presidential election. Would Bush look foolish if an Iranian attack and Shi'a uprising caused heavy US casualties a few weeks before the election? Would many voters blame Bush for choosing to make war upon Iraq, drawing us into a wider war? Don't underestimate the public's war-weariness, especially if they are not clear on why the US attacked Iraq in the first place. About half of them already have serious doubts about the invasion in the first place.
The Iranians, if they decided to attack, would send several hunderd thousand troops at us. If they're smart, they'll attack across the border in a dozen or so places, making it difficult to mass air power against them. Couple all this with the fact that many of Iraq's major cities are close to the Iranian border (less than 100 miles), and we have a recipe for trouble. The Iranians posses chemical weapons, as well. Will they use them, and risk the opprobrium of the world? They might, if they felt that their very future was at stake. And they wouldn't dare attack the US forces unless they believed that in the first place.
I think it's all talk. I can't believe Iran would act so stupidly. I think they're following the North Korea game plan to nuclear weapons.
I predict this little pimple on the ass of the world will pop even faster than the pimple beside it did.
I wonder what is happening on the CIA front in regards to fomenting an overthrow of the current government.
Once they began massing troops we'd hammer them. Missle delivered WMD's are their only hope of catching us unaware.
That's the objection to an Iranian attack at first glance. Why choose to directly engage the US in war, before>/i> their nuclear bombas are built? If they attack our men in Iraq/Afghanistan, we certainly would have a pretext to bomb every square inch of Iran, including their nuclear reactor at Bushehr. In addition, they would be in a much stronger position, once war with the US was joined, if they had the bomb. Why attack the US now?
The only reason would be that they believe that they will never be allowed to build a nuclear arsenal, and that the events in Iraq have weakened the US forces, and our overall capability to reinforce them.
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