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John Kerry shot at by Khmer Rouge?
American Heritage Dictionary ^ | aug 9, 2004 | self

Posted on 08/09/2004 6:30:25 PM PDT by fatrat

Khmer Rouge Noun: A Cambodian Communist movement that was active as a guerrilla force from 1970 to the late 1990s and held power under the leadership of Pol Pot from 1975 to 1979.

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KEYWORDS: cambodia; christmasncambodia; kerry; khmerrouge; militaryrecord
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John Kerry testified that he was being shot at by the Khmer Rouge while he was in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968. Really??
1 posted on 08/09/2004 6:30:27 PM PDT by fatrat
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To: fatrat

looks like something else someone should spread the news about.


2 posted on 08/09/2004 6:32:16 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: fatrat

Someone posted on another thread that the Khmer Rouge was actually in existence before 1970. I wish I had the link.


3 posted on 08/09/2004 6:33:03 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: fatrat

He said yesterday he was at Iwo Jima.


4 posted on 08/09/2004 6:35:24 PM PDT by mrexitement
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To: BlessedBeGod

Here it is:

"It appears the Khmer Rouge (Cambodian Communist Party) was in existence prior to 1970. However, it was not a significant factor until starting around March, 1970, as it had fewer than 3,000 members before this.

The following is from the Encyclopedia:

(Pol Pot) was born in Prek Sbauv in what was then a part of French Indochina... In 1949, he won a scholarship to study radio engineering in Paris. During his study, he became a communist, and joined an emergent Khmer communist group. This group was called the French Communist Party. In 1953, he returned to Cambodia... In the late 1960s, Sihanouk's head of internal security, Lon Nol took brutal action against the revolutionaries, known as Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot started an armed uprising against the government, supported by the People's Republic of China (PRC). Prior to 1970, the Khmer Rouge was an insignificant factor in Cambodian politics...
http://united-states.asinah.net/american-encyclopedia/wikipedia/p/po/pol_pot.html

The formation of the Khmer Rouge is murky, but it was apparently an established movement in 1968. However, as the NVA totally controlled the Cambodian border areas at this time (and there was very little Cambodian population living there) it is unlikely there were many, if any, Khmer Rouge in this border area (5 miles across the border?) in 1968. It was not until a couple years later they really got established as a military force."

361 posted on 08/09/2004 6:42:50 PM CDT by Gritty

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1188229/posts?q=1&&page=301


5 posted on 08/09/2004 6:35:47 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: BlessedBeGod

"Someone posted on another thread that the Khmer Rouge was actually in existence before 1970. I wish I had the link."

according to the Columbia encyclopedia there were only 3000 Khmer Rouge in 1970.


6 posted on 08/09/2004 6:37:14 PM PDT by fatrat
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To: fatrat; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...

"YEARS, DECADES.......BACK THEN THEY WERE INTERCANGEABLE."


7 posted on 08/09/2004 6:37:42 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: fatrat

Kerry wasn't in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968. He was with some Vietnamese call girl, and they had the following discussion:

"Oh, Kerry-san, how you like my makeup?"

"I'll take a shot. Okay--more rouge."

It's all a big misunderstanding, like when Top Secret documents fell into Sandy Berger's boxer shorts.


8 posted on 08/09/2004 6:38:58 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: mrexitement
"He said yesterday he was at Iwo Jima."

He was probably at Heartbreak Ridge too...with Clint Eastwood.

9 posted on 08/09/2004 6:39:40 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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To: OXENinFLA

That's it .. Tomorrow I'm going out to buy a chart so I can keep up with all Kerry's lies


10 posted on 08/09/2004 6:40:56 PM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: fatrat

It's all a big misunderstanding. Jophn actually said "On Christmas I was Pouring shots for the Khmer Rouge"


11 posted on 08/09/2004 6:41:12 PM PDT by AlbertWang
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John Kerry testified that he was being shot at by the Khmer Rouge while he was in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968. Really??

Yea, and according to Ketchup, Nixon was POTUS Christmas 1968!
In fact, Ketchup was no where near Cambodia and he couldn't get his boat up the river to get to Cambodia if he wanted to because the Navy was blocking the access!!!duhhhhh
This clown has about as much credibility as a screen door on a submarine!LMAO

Semper Fi,
Kelly
12 posted on 08/09/2004 6:41:27 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: fatrat
They took over in 75 after a 5 year civil war

Here is aomething from Yale

"Khmer Rouge" means Red Khmers, and is the name given to the left wing in Cambodian politics by King Norodom Sihanouk in the 1950s. Since then, the name has come to be identified with a particular faction of the Cambodian left, formally known during the 1970s as the Communist Party of Kampuchea (CPK) and during the 1980s and 90s as the "Party of Democratic Kampuchea."

Considering the astonishing levels of violence which have racked Cambodia and Cambodian politics during modern history, until 1996 the core leadership of the CPK has been remarkably stable. The Standing Committee of the Central Committee of the CPK consisted of the same core group for some 25 years. Often called the "Party Center," this group comprised Saloth Sar (alias Pol Pot), Nuon Chea, Chhit Choeun (alias Mok), Khieu Samphan, Ieng Sary, Son Sen, Yun Yat, Ieng Thirith, and Ke Pauk.

On April 17, 1975, a bitter five-year civil war was concluded with the Party Center leading the Khmer Rouge to victory over the US-backed Khmer Republic of General Lon Nol. Thus arose the "Khmer Rouge regime."

The Khmer Rouge subsequently established the state of Democratic Kampuchea, and instituted what was arguably the most radical experiment in social engineering of the twentieth century. In an effort to "purify" the "Khmer race" and create an absolutely classless utopian society, the Khmer Rouge began by emptying all Cambodian urban centers of their population, abolishing banking, finance and currency, outlawing all religions, reorganizing traditional kinship systems into a communal order, and eliminating private property so completely that even personal hygiene supples were communal.

Extreme levels of coercion were required in order to effect this total transformation of Cambodia's conservative, agrarian Buddhist peasant society. The cost in human life was high. Of the total Cambodian population of some 7 to 8 million in 1975, various estimates put the death toll over the following three years and eight months at 15% to 40% of the total. The official tally published by the successor regime to the Khmer Rouge sets the number of dead at 3.1 million. Several demographic analyses (by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, the U.S. Bureau of the Census, and the U.N. Population Bureau) have estimated the death toll to be between 1 million and 2 million. Empirical analyses by Western scholars of Cambodia place the estimate at between 1.5 and 1.8 million dead from execution, disease, starvation and overwork.

One of the objectives of Yale University's Cambodian Genocide Program and the Documentation Center of Cambodia is to attempt to improve the empirical underpinning of these various estimates and establish more clearly the human cost of the Khmer Rouge revolution.

One of the conceits of the Khmer Rouge Party Center was that Democratic Kampuchea was capable of seizing through military conquest regions of present-day Vietnam which were lost to Cambodian control through Vietnamese expansion over the last five hundred years. It is a puzzle of Cambodian history how this notion could come to exercise such a hold on the imagination of the Khmer Rouge leadership, considering that Vietnam's population, economy and military was an order of magnitude larger than that of Cambodia. After several years of border conflict, Vietnam finally invaded Cambodia on December 25, 1978, aiming to resolve the issue once and for all. Within two weeks, on January 7, 1979, Vietnamese armed forces entered the Cambodian capital at Phnom Penh and proclaimed the end of the Khmer Rouge state of Democratic Kampuchea.

Today, however, some seventeen years and three Cambodian regimes later, the "National Army of Democratic Kampuchea," as the Khmer Rouge military is known, continues to wage warfare from jungle redouts in an attempt to regain control of Cambodia and resume their utopian experiment.

13 posted on 08/09/2004 6:42:37 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: fatrat
Here is the Link

Khmer Rouge

14 posted on 08/09/2004 6:45:05 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Actually, Kerry had heard that Madam Diem was free. She had a lot of dough and she had been single for a little while.
His first attempt for a rich widow?


15 posted on 08/09/2004 6:45:13 PM PDT by Holicheese (Do you know who I am?)
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To: mass55th

I watched "The Green Berets" with John Wayne last night. I think he said that movie was based on his experiences there.


16 posted on 08/09/2004 6:46:13 PM PDT by mrexitement
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To: Mo1

Actually Kerry might be correct about this one, and you know it's hard for me to say that :-)


17 posted on 08/09/2004 6:46:39 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: OXENinFLA

ROFLMAO


18 posted on 08/09/2004 6:47:49 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: fatrat
His memory is "SEARED" with that Christmas! Kind of like all the black Churches being burne din Arkansas that Clinton "remembered" (never happened) and like Toricelli "rememebring" the "TELEVISED" McCarthy hearings when he was a small child! (they were NOT televised)

I am soooooo damn sick of Demoncrat LIARS I can't stand it.

19 posted on 08/09/2004 6:51:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Perhaps Kerry's recollections are partially correct. After having tea with the Khmer Rouge, and on trying to sneak back across the border he was mistakenly shot at by Americans patrolling the border.

That would sear him for life... The fact that he almost got caught.


20 posted on 08/09/2004 6:57:12 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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