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Kerry's Goal of Independence From Middle East Oil Divides Advisers
NY Times ^ | 8/7/04 | Neela Banerjee

Posted on 08/06/2004 10:44:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON, Aug. 6 - The idea of a United States independent of Middle East oil is a touchstone of Senator John Kerry's campaign and a huge crowd pleaser, but has divided and exasperated many of his most experienced energy advisers.

Some advisers say they worry that Mr. Kerry's focus on freeing the United States from reliance on oil from the Persian Gulf, the linchpin of the energy plan he released on Thursday, is unrealistic and misleading and that hammering away at it would erode Mr. Kerry's credibility with business, the news media and other countries.

The advisers, who include independent analysts, former staff members from Congress and the Clinton administration, and a few industry executives, contend that Mr. Kerry's regular jabs at Saudi Arabia in particular could be construed by many in the Middle East as anti-Arab, at a time when the United States may need the help of other Arab nations to improve the situation in Iraq.

"It goes down well in Omaha, so they use it," said one expert from the oil sector who advises the campaign and who, like other advisers, spoke on condition of anonymity. "Though there are people who say that this is irresponsible, asinine so don't use it."

He added: "I'm concerned and frustrated. It's been around for months."

Any energy plan in a campaign reads more like notes from a brainstorming session than a detailed blueprint for economic and social change. The ideas are diverse and often vague, in an effort to have as many people as possible sign on. The chances of an actual policy being passed by Congress are slim, said energy industry experts, some of whom contended that the country had not had a comprehensive energy policy since President Jimmy Carter.

The Bush campaign argues that the Kerry plan will lead to the opposite of all it trumpets: job losses, not gains; greater dependence on foreign oil, not less; and a weaker economy. They also said Mr. Kerry and his running mate, Senator John Edwards, did not vote for energy legislation supported by the administration that contained similar ideas to what is in Mr. Kerry's plan. The Republican energy plan, however, included a provision to allow drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, which both men oppose.

Among Mr. Kerry's advisers and independent energy analysts, the reviews of the details of the plan were mixed, though most praised its focus on reducing energy demand.

"At least it's going in the right direction," said Roger Diwan, a managing director at PFC Energy, a Washington consulting firm. "The only thing that matters is increasing fuel efficiency because if you can't control demand, you will never have an energy policy."

Increasing fuel efficiency of American cars is a critical aspect of the 10-year, $30 billion plan, though Mr. Kerry has avoided setting target dates or mileage goals. He calls for establishing an Energy Security Trust Fund financed with royalties from federal leases for oil and gas drilling that would then bankroll research into improving fuel efficiency, and developing alternative fuels for automobiles and renewable energy sources for power production.

What discomfits some energy experts with the campaign, those outside it and some Saudis is Mr. Kerry's belief that the United States can achieve independence from Middle East oil and the rhetoric he uses to express that vision. Because many Arab governments are repressive, the logic of the campaign goes, they are ultimately vulnerable to upheaval and potentially volatile.

"We are going to reach for energy independence, we are going to create the jobs of the future because I want America's security to depend on Americas ingenuity and creativity, not the Saudi royal family," Mr. Kerry said at a rally in St. Louis this week. "That's where the future is."

The comment drew huge applause, as it almost always does. One Kerry adviser said the reaction of television viewers to a similar comment in Mr. Kerry's convention speech showed overwhelmingly favorable reaction from Democrats and Republicans.

The problem is that for the next 10 or 20 years, perhaps more, perhaps as long as the United States uses oil, it will be tied to the Middle East, which holds two-thirds of the world's oil reserves. Oil prices are global, determined by bidding for barrels mainly on exchange in New York and London. So even if the United States did not import any oil from the Middle East, a disruption of oil exports from there to Japan, for instance, would still result in a price shock in the United States as Japan's scramble for oil drive up prices everywhere, industry experts said.

Some advisers who squirm over the language maintain that the Saudis nevertheless understand that such categorical statements are campaign-year rallying cries. The Saudis point out that every president since Richard M. Nixon has called for the same thing, though one Saudi official who spoke on the condition of anonymity said the call was "more loud now."

"Things will be said in an election year, and we take it for what it is," said Nail al-Jubeir, spokesman for the Saudi Embassy in Washington. "These arguments tend to be what you find on a bumper sticker. People think Saudi-bashing is the answer to energy consumption, but we're not over here selling you S.U.V.'s or defeating fuel-efficiency standards."

Yet while the Saudi elite may understand the need for Mr. Kerry's rhetoric, others in the kingdom see a downside for both nations. "This is not good from the point of view of attacking another country or in the way the U.S. public sees us," said the Saudi official who insisted on anonymity. "And some people will use it against the U.S."

The Kerry campaign, however, did not see drawbacks to the message.

"John Kerry's diplomacy will be so far and away different from George Bush's," said Sarah Bianchi, Mr. Kerry's national policy director. "We aren't worried about anything he is saying on these issues."

David M. Halbfinger contributed reporting from St. Louis for this article.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: advisers; divides; energy; goal; independence; kerry; kerryenergy; middleeast; oil
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1 posted on 08/06/2004 10:44:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I thought Kerry's idea of two yugos in every garage was brilliant


2 posted on 08/06/2004 10:46:40 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: NormsRevenge

I don't think we could ever totally free ourselves of the need for foreign oil, but we certainly could, and should reduce our dependence on it. Bio-diesel is one place to start.


3 posted on 08/06/2004 10:48:48 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Michael Moore has made "documentary" a 1-word oxymoron.)
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To: NormsRevenge

improving fuel efficiency is an underrated concept, but what the saudi ambassador said is right(for a change)... every candidate since nixon has made this promise... and nobody has ever even worked toward making it a reality.


4 posted on 08/06/2004 10:49:28 PM PDT by Betaille ("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
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To: Always Right

Will Theresa and Hillary teach everyone how to fly brooms?


5 posted on 08/06/2004 10:50:02 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Always Right

Everyone just wants a four cylinder Toyota Prius, right?

The quickest way to stop our dependence on foreign oil is to drill more. The Dumborats won't let us.

Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that we can turn off the spigots from the Middle East, where we get approximately 20% of our oil now. We don't have enough oil to fulfill our own domestic needs. There is only so much oil we can take from Mexico, Canada, and Venuzuela to make up the difference.

Surely Kerry wouldn't want to have energy prices increase because he's too stubborn to get oil from the Middle East, or is he?


6 posted on 08/06/2004 10:52:58 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: NormsRevenge

If we are serious about oil independence we need to open up some public lands for exploration, and cut back on some of the ridiculous environmental laws That make fuel more expensive.


7 posted on 08/06/2004 10:55:08 PM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
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To: Keith in Iowa
I don't think we could ever totally free ourselves of the need for foreign oil...

Agreed...but a Baghdad to Boston pipeline, and a "Free Gasoline day" on the anniversity of Saddam's capture, would go a long way in alleviating some of our dependence.

8 posted on 08/06/2004 10:55:33 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: NormsRevenge
" if you can't control demand, you will never have an energy policy." "

The government shouldn't try to suppress citizen's demands, it should instead facilitate increasing supply to meet those demands.

It's the difference between an expanding economy and a contracting one.

9 posted on 08/06/2004 10:56:21 PM PDT by bayourod (I resent Kerry telling me that his values, not mine are the only true American values.)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
Surely Kerry wouldn't want to have energy prices increase because he's too stubborn to get oil from the Middle East, or is he?

Don't kid yourself. Kerry's message is simply posturing. If he were elected, he would deal with OPEC just like everyone else.

10 posted on 08/06/2004 10:56:48 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman
Don't kid yourself. Kerry's message is simply posturing. If he were elected, he would deal with OPEC just like everyone else.

Wait? Kerry lies? I am shocked. I thought only Bush lies. /sarcasm

11 posted on 08/06/2004 11:00:21 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: NormsRevenge
Same old ideas from same old stupid Democrats.

Here are the real solutions:

1) Drill...everywhere-screw the envirowackos.

2) Build 100 new nuclear plants, two per state.

3) Encourage and build the infrastructure for more usage of natural gas.

4) Quit taxing consumption of gasoline at such high levels since almost all states have huge surpluses in their transportation departments and most of them are so corrupt they'd make Al Capone blush.

5) Give up on solar, wind and other ridiculous power supplies. We've wasted billions of dollars over decades and haven't gotten one inch better in the technology while the increases in technology for coal, oil, nuclear, etc. have been monumental. But as is typical for idiot liberals, they hang on to discredited and proven false ideals while pooh-poohing new ideas.

6) Quit wasting billions on farm subsidies for ethanol. If anyone is willing to do the research they'll find the use of mixed fuel ethanol decreases engine efficiency to the point more usage increases the need to burn the oil part of the formula. Thus, the more you use ethanol the more oil based gasoline you use to get the same results. My father proved this years ago when he was a GM mechanical engineer. Of course, they may have improved the formula but I doubt it.

7) Simply tell the public, at no cost, that if they just keep their oil changed, tires at full pressure, the air filter clean, the fuel injectors clean, etc. they could realize many more miles per gallon. Simple preventative maintenance. But then again, the average American is too stupid to do any preventative maintenance of their own bodies and wait until something goes wrong and incur higher healthcare costs.

It's not rocket science.
12 posted on 08/06/2004 11:00:43 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I voted FOR John Kerry...before I voted against him!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"said one expert from the oil sector who advises the campaign and who, like other advisers, spoke on condition of anonymity."

Any guesses who this person is?

13 posted on 08/06/2004 11:01:08 PM PDT by endthematrix (Go balloons. Go balloons. Go balloons, balloons?)
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To: NormsRevenge
...some of whom contended that the country had not had a comprehensive energy policy since President Jimmy Carter.

Ah...
14 posted on 08/06/2004 11:06:38 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: endthematrix

probably not a Halliburton fella, I reckun ;-)


15 posted on 08/06/2004 11:06:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: Always Right
"reads more like notes from a brainstorming session than a detailed blueprint for economic and social change. The ideas are diverse and often vague, in an effort to have as many people as possible sign on."

And those continuous flip-flops.

As for the Yugo.....

Make that a Trabank to go

Why do Trabank's have heated rear windows? ...to keep your hands warm when pushing.

How do you double the value of a Trabank?....Fill it up with petrol

16 posted on 08/06/2004 11:07:18 PM PDT by spokeshave (strategery + schadenfreude = stratenschadenfreudery)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is nonsense on stilts. Only a small portion (something like 17%) of oil we import comes from Saudi Arabia. Most of our imported oil comes from Mexico and Canada.


17 posted on 08/06/2004 11:09:30 PM PDT by Dave Olson
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To: Fledermaus
I agree 90% you are on the right track! Not so hot on the nuke plants. Would like to see something popular come out of corn byproducts. I'm from IL (the tyranny state) and we have coal and corn. Both good fuel. He have ComEd nuclear power too, but still pricey and way too many accident reports for my comfort.
18 posted on 08/06/2004 11:12:09 PM PDT by endthematrix (Go balloons. Go balloons. Go balloons, balloons?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Who knows, really? Strange bedfellows - the rich and politically connected are.
19 posted on 08/06/2004 11:13:39 PM PDT by endthematrix (Go balloons. Go balloons. Go balloons, balloons?)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

Dennis Miller said it right tonight. When they make an electric or hybrid that looks like a Boxter, I'll buy one.


20 posted on 08/06/2004 11:15:18 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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