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1 posted on 08/06/2004 8:06:15 PM PDT by kristinn
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What Republicans gloated.
BS.
What a cheap way to try to link Republicans to this.
this is a bipartisan effort.
grrrr.
I'm getting fired up.


2 posted on 08/06/2004 8:08:55 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie, Visualize getting off your' liberal ass and getting a job)
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Well, hell has frozen over. I actually found this NYT's article somewhat balanced. Go figure.


3 posted on 08/06/2004 8:10:54 PM PDT by Rokke
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"This heah's all old news." </Carville voice>

Just a rehash of today's events with a veneer of spin to cover over the Boston Globe's lies.

4 posted on 08/06/2004 8:11:17 PM PDT by OKSooner
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NY Times doesn't mention the Boston Globe writer. Could it be that the writer is working on Kerry's book?


5 posted on 08/06/2004 8:11:21 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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Let's get to bottom if this slander of Kerry (a decorated war hero). Kerry should immediately call on President Bush to release all of Kerry's war records.
7 posted on 08/06/2004 8:12:54 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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There is there there in this story. The leftists are too irrational for this to be false.

type in this url: www.swiftboatvets.com

That domain was setup in May of this year. They planned to misdirect legitimate net traffic to a location designed to cloud the story. The media is only too happy to help the far left.

10 posted on 08/06/2004 8:15:42 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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I see what's happening. The non-biased left-wing wacko media is giving Lt. Cmmdr. Elliot the Gary Aldrich treatment.

Prayers up for these brave vets. They're going to need all the spiritual support we can give them.

12 posted on 08/06/2004 8:15:48 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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The party and the Kerry campaign have released bits of information they say show connections between Mr. Bush and the group - mostly by noting that Bob J. Perry, a Texas developer whose path has frequently crossed that of Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's top political strategist, donated $100,000 to the Swift boat group.

I'm going to post this again. Perry is no rabid right-winger, to say the least:

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15 posted on 08/06/2004 8:16:39 PM PDT by Philistine
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The party and the Kerry campaign have released bits of information they say show connections between Mr. Bush and the group - mostly by noting that Bob J. Perry, a Texas developer whose path has frequently crossed that of Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's top political strategist, donated $100,000 to the Swift boat group.



Let's talk about move-on.org ads and George Soros, shall we? These folks are losing so big........bigger every time they pull a stunt like this. Kerry is toast!


16 posted on 08/06/2004 8:19:05 PM PDT by Just Lori (The road to hell is paved by Liberals)
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When charges surfaced during Mr. Kerry's 1996 senatorial re-election campaign that he had shot the Viet Cong in the back as the man was wounded and fleeing, Commander Elliott spoke in Mr. Kerry's defense, telling reporters, "The fact that he chased an armed enemy down is something not to be looked down upon, but it was an act of courage."

What is REMARKABLE about this quote is that, even someone being complimentary of Kerry's actions STILL does NOT DENY that Kerry shot an already-wounded and fleeing man and killed him with a shot to the back.

Are Democrats, are Americans ready to elect a man who committed a war crime?

21 posted on 08/06/2004 8:21:23 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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Actually very slanted...

...the NYT completely skips over the refusal of Kerry to release his military and medical records which would clear up all questions about this "controversy".


26 posted on 08/06/2004 8:24:02 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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The swiftboat veterans story has been on FR all year but now that the media is forced to give it legs the trolls have really come out to play.


28 posted on 08/06/2004 8:25:02 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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Lawyers for Mr. Kerry's campaign and the Democratic Party used the inconsistencies to convince another television station, WTVG in Toledo, Ohio, not to run the spot on Friday. But the station reversed itself later in the day when the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth released another affidavit from Commander Elliott attacking the article and affirming his earlier statement.

Having Toledo, Ohio, mentioned in the NYT, and the circumstances thereof...

"priceless"!!

(now to the real story...but GOOD FOR THEM! far as I know, so far...and it ain't going away in any case, IMHO)

31 posted on 08/06/2004 8:28:29 PM PDT by 88keys
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I wonder if it is possible that this was a setup by Swiftvets to get your attention to the ad?

Probably just my mind thinking too much there and going tinfoil....:)

But if it is, it is simply brilliant.


32 posted on 08/06/2004 8:29:11 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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"Democrats said that the spot would only serve to anger voters for attacking a decorated veteran's war record, and that the anger would eventually be directed at Mr. Bush."

Of course the voters don't get angry at all when democRATs demean, attack and try to undermine the president every time they open their hateful mouths, while he's trying to keep the country safe from their terrorist buddies. < /sarcasm >

33 posted on 08/06/2004 8:29:36 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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OK, I got carried away by the "Toledo" reference...this is not a real NYT report, is it! Had me going there, shame on you!
37 posted on 08/06/2004 8:32:15 PM PDT by 88keys
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hanoi john did 132 days in Vietnam vs 730 days as an anti-war protester with hanoi jane, really shows where his priorities are.


39 posted on 08/06/2004 8:34:23 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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The party and the Kerry campaign have released bits of information they say show connections between Mr. Bush and the group - mostly by noting that Bob J. Perry, a Texas developer whose path has frequently crossed that of Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's top political strategist, donated $100,000 to the Swift boat group.

Note the equivocal linking of the group to the President, and the placing of this graph at the very ass end of the story. You know they've been digging harder than ever before looking for this link that (in their feeble little minds) will completely destroy the credibility of these vets and of the White House. If they had found anything at all definitely linking the two, even just a bit of supposition that they could at least hang their hats on for starters, it would have been blasted at the reader in the very first sentence, under a banner headline proclaiming a definitive link between these "liars" and the "Republican attack machine." So far the DNC enforcers and their media lackeys have come up dry.

44 posted on 08/06/2004 8:37:41 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ( John F'in Kerry - the gift that keeps on giving to the Bush campaign.)
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It's late and it's been a long day, but I have to make one more comment regarding the Swift Boat Veteran "retraction" story vis a vis the Boston Fishwrap that's been swirling all day. Just one more example heaped upon the mountain of how the liberal Drooling Lapdog Press indicates its utter ignorance of and distain for the military.

The latest angry assertion from the Left is that no one in Kerry's Swift Boat squadron could possibly know how he performed unless they were actually on his boat. What nonsense. The Left has not a clue. When my air squadron was in Vietnam we had 16 crews and ten aircraft. Let me assure you that not only was every air crewman in the squadron intimately familiar with the performance of everyone aboard his aircraft, we were intimately knowledgable about the performance of the 15 other crews and of every member of every crew. It was also common to be well versed in the performance of people in other squadrons. The nature of serving in the Navy is such, especially during war.

The DLP cannot and will not understand the Ugh! military. They have been forced to deal with it because Kerry apparently went into suspended hypernation in 1971, only to emerge several months ago to run for President. If I had his Senate record, I'd run from it, too. One of the Left's great continuing failings is their stubborn refusal to understand the armed forces and what it means to America.

47 posted on 08/06/2004 8:38:44 PM PDT by pabianice
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Somebody has messed in their pants, I do not think they really want to go to court over this.

The military records would be the "proof".....


51 posted on 08/06/2004 8:41:22 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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