Trooper kicks pro-lifer out of state

WND ^ | August 5, 2004 | WND

[cyn]

Thanks for bringing that situation to my attention. A google search turned up this account -- http://www.excommunication.net/News_archive/News_Jan_May_2001/Priest_ejected.htm:

Priest ejected from Catholic school by abortion supporters

Fr. Peter West of Priests for Life was ejected from St. Patrick's School in Newark, NJ on March 18, 2001 during a gathering for a pro-abortion politician following the St. Patrick's Day Parade. Father West wrote about the incident:

Dear Friends,

Many of you have been emailing me to ask what happened at the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Newark on Sunday March 18.  You may have heard that I was physically thrown out of St. Patrick's School hall. This is true. I will give you a full report. 

I was present along with about 15 other demonstrators at the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Newark. We used our First Amendment rights to heckle and boo pro-abortion politicians at the grand stand in front of City Hall.

We also passed out leaflets along the way to protest Jim McGreevey who was chosen to be the Grand Marshal of the parade. As a State Senator in Trenton McGreevey voted twice against banning the gruesome partial-birth abortion procedure. The whole parade was one big Democratic Rally for Jim McGreevey. "McGreevey for Governor" signs were everywhere and McGreevey campaign literature was passed out liberally.

Afterwards, I visited several gatherings at taverns where McGreevey's supporters were gathered. I wore stickers which said "McGreevey Supports Partial-Birth Abortion" and "St. Patrick Is Pro-Life".

One of the gatherings for McGreevey was at St. Patrick's School. It particularly grieved me that the Church officials would allow the Church to be used by a pro-abortion politician. I don't think Jesus, who drove the money changers out of the Temple, would allow himself to be used in this way.

Some of us pro-life protesters decided to pay $10 and attend the gathering to talk to people and find out what was going on. Since this was obviously a political event to support Jim McGreevey we were clearly not welcome, but at no time did we engage in disruptive behavior inside the school hall. Other pro-life supporters remained outside with signs and passed out literature.

One of the protesters who entered the hall with me was Larry Cirignano. Larry is a resident of Newark and the Director of Communications for the Catholic Alliance. This organization is run by Raymond Flynn, the former Mayor of Boston and Ambassador to the Vatican during the Clinton Administration. Flynn is a pro-life Democrat. Larry and I waited patiently to speak to Mr. McGreevey and Tom Giblin, the New Jersey State Democratic Chairman. Mr Giblin was also the Chairman of the Parade Committee. (Remember the excuse given by Church officials to permit use of the Catholic school hall was that this was not a political event, but a cultural one.)  I gave Mr.McGreevey a copy of the American Bishops document Living the Gospel of Life: A Challenge to American Catholics, which he assured me he would read. He was going on to other gatherings, but assured me he would be in contact.

After our discussion we remained peacefully in the hall until I was confronted by a pro-abortion woman who shouted at me "How many children did you raise?" I answered her back and debated with several Catholic pro-abortion supporters of McGreevey. Some denied that McGreevey supported partial-birth abortion, but I had a newspaper article with a record of the vote to show his vote on the subject. At this point they began to say that I had no right to protest McGreevey's support of partial-birth abortion because of what Catholic priests do to little boys in confessionals. I was also accused of protesting the event simply because I wanted to help the Republican Party. (Anyone who is aware of my record of protesting former Governor Whitman would realize that that is also a lie.) A man in plain clothes identifying himself as a police officer heard the commotion and blamed it on me, accusing me of harassment. At this point I was physically thrown out the door and shoved down the stairs. This same person earlier ripped up a sign of another pro-life protester who was exercising his First Amendment rights as he peacfully walked along the sidewalk along the parade route. His sign read "McGreevey: Herod's Hero".

One pro-life protester was worried that I would be arrested and grabbed me and tried to get me to walk away, but I insisted that I was in my right mind and that I had done nothing wrong or of which I was ashamed. I was prepared to be arrested if necessary, but I wasn't going to walk away. 

As I was complaining about being thrown out the door Larry Cirignano was also shoved out the door even more forcefully than myself. In fact, he came very close to falling down the stairs. Earlier Mr. Giblin said that he would give him a copy of the Parade Journal. We wanted the Journal to find out what organizations were on the Committee that chose the Grand Marshal. Among them were the Knights of Columbus and the Ancient Order of Hibernians. When Larry was seen by a McGreevey suporter with the journal they simply assumed that he stole it.

I argued forcefully with the security guards and others assembled outside. I brought up the irony that a Catholic priest had been thrown out of a Catholic school by abortion supporters as a pro-abortion politician was being honored inside. Realizing the possible political damage this could cause Larry and I were finally admitted back into the hall much to the chagrin of those responsible for throwing us out.  In fact, there was an argument among them as to whether we should be let back in. One man told me to proceed while another kept shoving me back. Michael McGlynn of the Ancient Order of Hibernians was finally responsible for getting us back inside.  We stayed there until McGreevey went on to his next gathering. At this point most of hall cleared out. Other pro-life protesters, who apparently went unnoticed told us that while Larry and I were outside McGreevey's parents addressed the crowd to talk about their son's Irish roots.

I do think we made our point, but I am afraid that this will not be the last time that Church officials allow themselves to be the silent partners of pro-abortion politicians in New Jersey. Church officials defended the use of Church facilities for this event which they deemed non-political. (If you can call this event non-political you can call almost anything non-political.) I have no doubt that McGreevey will find a sympathetic priest to host more political events at Catholic facilities. One priest gave the opening invocation and two other priests marched in the parade. When this happens we need to be there in force. Fifteen protesters was enough to make a noise, but we will need many more to convince Church officials that it doesn't make sense for them to allow themselves to be exploited by pro-abortion politicians.

Sincerely,

Father Peter West

(I am a priest of the Archdiocese of Newark, ordained in May 25, 1991 I currently live in Staten Island New York at Immaculate Conception Rectory, but my home is in Fairfield, NJ. My home parish is St. Thomas More.)

[Widows Son]

As usual, my point isn't understood. I am NOT making a judgement on the issue of abortion. I am simply saying that ANY vehicle which could cause a traffic accident, especially on a highway and one that would probably take a human life in the process (isn't that what you are against?) is wrong.
And as for driving arond Nazi Germany in a truck with pictures of Concentration camps (I assume you mean the Death Camps and victims of both ) would never have happened. In Nazi Germany people didn't have the 1st Amendment to "protect" their right to free speech.
Nor would I be allowed to drive around with pictures of the Tinamen (sic) Square killings on my truck in China, or the Gulag victims in the Soviet Union. How about pictures of people who have had there homes raided accidentally by Law Enforcement? Or pictures of Bill CLintoon with his intern? My point is that there is, as the saying goes, a time and place for everything. And the highway in a 5000lb truck moving at at least 60 mph with other people around IS NOT THE PLACE TO MAKE WHATEVER POLITICAL COMMENT YOU WISH TO MAKE!

[al_c]

One year ago, Febbraio was arrested and charged with eight counts of harassment of a disabled state police dispatcher he referred to as "Gimpy," the AFA notes. One allegations stated Febbraio, using the home address of the dispatcher, subscribed to magazines such as Playboy and CosmoGirl!.

Febbraio described the harassment as a practical joke, according to the Hartford Courant.

They certainly have the right to drive their truck anywhere they darn well please, but he's got to stop doing crap like this. It's inexcusable.

[LowOiL]

And the highway in a 5000lb truck moving at at least 60 mph with other people around IS NOT THE PLACE TO MAKE WHATEVER POLITICAL COMMENT YOU WISH TO MAKE!

I guess you are for taking people bumper stickers off too. Sorry, but I don't buy it. Bozo's drive with cell phones, advertisment signs, speeders, and while putting makeup on. People can handle a truck with a picture of a infant on it.

This is not a porn issue/nor is this a picture off of rotten.com ... All comparative measures of the two are silly IMHO..

[Joe Republc]

OK, here's where I do differ from some pro-lifers.

I protest at an abortion clinic about once a month. What is happening in the clinic is an obscenity, and we need to witness to it. We need to speak up and make it known that killing is happening and it must be stopped.

But, I don't think that the graphic pictures of this obscenity, esp. the huge ones blown up to the size of a truck, must be protected as free speech.

To compare it to something else, if someone wanted to protest a sex club, they wouldn't get by posting huge signs of some of lewd stuff going on inside. (Yeah, I'm sure I'm really opening myself up for some cheap jokes here.) Again, to exercise one's free speech, one should not be unconditionally protected to scream the obscenity involved, or put it on huge graphics.

Frankly, as much as I love our 1st Amendment, I think the whole distinction between true 'speech' and all the obscenity that is in the public square has been almost completely lost. We need to get it back.

And, as a pro-lifer who prays daily for abortion to end, I do differ with other pro-lifers on this matter.

Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
-- Joe

[Joe Republc]

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[Gondring]

These cops set themselves up as judge and jury. Escorting someone to the stateline???? Apparently they didn't even give them 'til sundown.

So, you'd prefer we allow our police no discretion, and set up like Virginia has done---requiring an arrest to be made in domestic dispute calls?

No thank you.

[Chunga]

We pro-lifers need to change minds about abortion. A picture like this, on display in traffic, won't change minds; it will merely inflame passions. Minds and hearts inflamed by passions aren't open to persuasion. This sort of thing only serves to entrench sides-taking and resentments.

A photo of a dead, aborted baby covered in blood is not just indecent; it's arguably pornographic and it doesn't belong on the side of a truck. A person engaging in such tactics is helping the enemy to discredit the pro-life point of view. As such, I disagree in the strongest possible terms with the decision to display it on the road.

[not5150]

"I guess you are for taking people bumper stickers off too."

There is a huge size difference between a bumper sticker and the signs on the van.

In the name of highway safety the officer did the right thing.

[Navy Patriot]

This vehicle was displaying scenes which are VERY distracting, if not downright discusting, and therefore are a traffic hazard.

Okay, how about the good lookin' gals with the skimpy clothes on the street corners? Not distracting? Filthy bums standing in traffic with cups? Not disgusting?

Sorry, First amendment all the way. Troopers should do 90 days no pay, busted to pay level one, and a written apology read on city hall steps to the press.