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Taking on liberal newspapers
Enter Stage Right ^ | 8-2-04 | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 08/04/2004 3:12:01 AM PDT by Liberty Wins

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A ray of hope.
1 posted on 08/04/2004 3:12:03 AM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: Liberty Wins
Ray bump...


2 posted on 08/04/2004 3:17:55 AM PDT by Stallone (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: Liberty Wins

"conservative Christian values"

Isn't that a hate crime in Seattle??


3 posted on 08/04/2004 3:22:37 AM PDT by kb2614 ( You have everything to fear, including fear itself. - The new DNC slogan)
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To: Liberty Wins
Young people are deeply concerned about the world that they will live in and in which they'll raise their children. They are disgusted with the moral depravity of the Left and the hidden Marxist agenda, which threatens to destroy the Free World. They are sick and tired of the mendacity and delusion of the Left, Democrats, "celebrities", so-called "journalists" of the "mainstream newsmedia" (a.k.a. The Propaganda Machine), "academia", and the "intelligentsia"; these people have proven themselves far too foolish and unworthy to lead.

Young people will seize the future and the destiny of the world.

The Left will be left behind in the garbage dump of history--where it belongs.

4 posted on 08/04/2004 4:10:15 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated, thanks to President Bush. A Kerry victory would be a repeat 9/11!)
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To: Liberty Wins

I stopped home delivery of the Dallas Morning News years ago and get my news fron Free Republic and the internet. Danged if I'm going to pay for a liberal rag!


5 posted on 08/04/2004 4:16:22 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sneakers

bump


6 posted on 08/04/2004 4:18:25 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: sonofatpatcher2

I read my Des Moines Red Star online. I refuse to give them any more of my hard-earned money.


7 posted on 08/04/2004 4:38:16 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: sonofatpatcher2

I lived in the Dallas area when it was a two-paper town, and would not take the Morning News. I took the Times Herald, which was more conservative, and I regretted seeing the Times Herald disappear. But that was before the Internet, which is my main news source now, other than FoxNews.


8 posted on 08/04/2004 4:38:40 AM PDT by Marauder (Show me a liberal and I'll show you a sick individual.)
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To: Liberty Wins

Thank you for a wonderful post. It made my morning! I grew up in the 60s and 70s (graduated college in 1975) and, as a result, spent most of my adulthood as a liberal. The Clinton administration, 9/11 and the gay bishop have changed me forever. I am now a staunch conservative. Thank God for the younger conservatives. We should support them as much as we can.


9 posted on 08/04/2004 4:58:13 AM PDT by Ex-Episcopalian
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To: Liberty Wins; All

This has piqued my curiosity. Anyone know what is involved in starting a newspaper?


10 posted on 08/04/2004 5:02:50 AM PDT by babyface00
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I been posting this for months now. Everyone said that FNC would not work and not has it worked, but is a bigger than both CNN and MSNBC combined.

We need a conservative USA Today type of national paper. What we do is we have all these conservative groups from around the country that are starting up their own papers as reporters and they submit articles daily. What the AP and Reuters reports, the articles are actually edited correctly to present the event in a fair and balanced perspective. Editorials remain conservative.

We are slowly getting there. Like the Marxists we need better organization and a fixed goal and timeframe to do this. A guy like Murdoch I am sure would be an investor.

Once this is in place, You now go after the big boys at the local level. We can win the media war. We muct win it. That is the only way we can change this country, by changing the information.



11 posted on 08/04/2004 5:17:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("John Kerry does not want to lead this country, he wants to be president.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Hopefully the Trib in Pgh got a nice bump in subscribers after Teresa's "shove it" comment generated some nice publicity for them...


12 posted on 08/04/2004 5:42:24 AM PDT by Veritas et equitas ad Votum
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To: babyface00
In the 60s, we had radical leftwing, counterculture newspapers in every major urban area.

You need people who can investigate, report and write. You need photographers (can be the same people). You can now do layout on a computer. You don't even need office space with the internet.

You need people to sell ads and someone who knows how to do layout (again: there are programs you can use to do layout). You need to find a printer unless you have access to a laser printer (desktop printer ink runs when wet).

You need distribution. Today, you may need secure areas for this, as leftists will destroy conservative papers if they can.

In the 60s, we used psychedelic art to attract readers. this was also a detriment, as some of the papers were artistic, but impossible to read.

Do a search on Underground Newspapers. Some names I recall: The Seed (Chicago); Kaleidoscope (Milwaukee); Milwaukee Bugle American (paper I worked for....more centntrist than radical and did actual reporting and no psychedelia).

Newsletter experience and a program for their layout will cover most of the technical basics. The rest takes talent and an advertising, distribution and audience base. You can also distribute a paper free, if the ads and classifieds cover the costs.
13 posted on 08/04/2004 5:57:10 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: kb2614
Isn't that a hate crime in Seattle??

Tell me about it... :)

14 posted on 08/04/2004 6:08:59 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Liberty Wins

Hit their advertisers! This is the one thing the liberal press fears the most. If companies are effected just 1% because of where they advertise, they will reconsider how much money they put in the source of advertising.


15 posted on 08/04/2004 6:21:51 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: Liberty Wins

I think it would help if conservatives learned to use emotional appeals based on basic civil and human rights to argue thier positions.

Promoting tax reform by arguing that ownership of the fruits your hard work, good decisions, and responsible acts, all positive human activities which benefit a civil society, is a basic human right works well for me. Claiming that preparing to make good decisions and having the self-discipline to act responsibility should be rewarded by a civil society, not punished, has been a consistent winning point. Pointing out that information is power and the current tax code gives politicians and lobbyists enormous amounts of information to use for personal vendettas or personal enrichment also works well.

The media doesn't like hearing someone argue that government ownership of every American's skin color is violation of their basic human rights. No one should be able to use someone's skin color as a basis for any legal action against an indidual or business without written authorization. Without ownership of everyone's skin color, the government can't use skin color to diminish the value of any American's achievements.

And no one seems to want to talk about intergenerational taxation. Current law and judicial precedent will require the average child in America to pay over 80% of their lifetime earnings in federal taxes. It's easy to argue for limited, sustainable government when you point out the alternative is a lifetime of slavery for America's children. "Do it for the children" has a whole new meaning.


16 posted on 08/04/2004 6:29:29 AM PDT by yoswif
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To: EQAndyBuzz; reformedliberal; Veritas et equitas ad Votum; Liberty Wins; Ex-Episcopalian; ...
A guy like Murdoch I am sure would be an investor.

FYI - Murdoch owns USA Today!

I agree, though, with your overall message. I live in the Bay Area which is probably the most leftist and loony (and beautiful) place in the US, yet just a few years ago an underpowered radio station, KSFO, converted from oldies to conservative talk and has become the number one station here. So I have no doubt that there is a huge pent up demand for a conservative newspaper, and would be a great financial success.

I, like you, have been trying to find a way to get that started - written to some of the conservative on-line publishers proposing the idea with no takers. I don't know anything about publishing a paper and don't have contact with conservative reporters to get one going, but I would gladly invest in such a venture, both for political as well as financial reasons.

I cancelled my subscription to the San Jose Merc years ago for health reasons after I realized that every morning when I stared at the propaganda on the front page my blood pressure would shoot up 20 or 30 points. My days have been much more enjoyable ever since.

17 posted on 08/04/2004 6:54:35 AM PDT by aquila48
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Can we talk LOS ANGELES next!

This town is the most lopsided press-propaganda city in the nation.....THERE IS NO COMPETITION! The LA SLIMES is out of control.

KABC talk radio here in LA with Sean, Bill, Al and Larry have replaced my need for the Slimes. So I cancelled them! IT WAS VERY LIBERATING!

My family lives just south of here in Orange County and they have a very weel balanced newspaper The OC Registrer. I believe it is also for sale. My father keeps saying it would be a great move if they would start printing a Los Angeles edition.......The SLIMES would gag!


18 posted on 08/04/2004 7:17:09 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: Liberty Wins

I think most Americans have no idea how liberal most of America's dailies are. In the midwest virtually every major paper is a liberal-spouting rag. Even the once bastion of conservatism The Chicago Tribune is infested with lib ideology. Just read the op-ed page to get my point. But every other big city rag in the midwest is outright dominated by libs. Heck, even my old hometown paper The La Crosse (Wis) Tribune formerly a conservative paper now all but campaigns for Kerry and lib ideas. I'd gladly pay twice what they charge to get an alternative conservative paper going.


19 posted on 08/04/2004 7:45:18 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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it would be a great move if they would start printing a Los Angeles edition.......The SLIMES would gag!

Sign me up.

A couple of years ago Riordan was rumored to be considering starting a newspaper in LA. After being LA mayor for 8 years he definitely recognised the need. Guess it was too much for him.

The LA Slimes is the most biased newspaper in the country IMNSHO.

20 posted on 08/04/2004 7:59:47 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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