Posted on 08/03/2004 5:12:26 PM PDT by wagglebee
ALEXANDRIA, Va. – A school that caters to children of Saudi diplomats is teaching first-graders that Judaism and Christianity are false religions, according to a Muslim group concerned that such teachings breed hatred.
Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism is calling on Islamic Saudi Academy to remove the textbook used to teach first-graders. The teachers' edition of the textbook outlines several points of emphasis, including the statement, "All religions other than Islam are false religions."
The coalition's director, Kamal Nawash, a Muslim, said it would be acceptable to teach that Islam is the only correct religion. But to explicitly tell first-graders that Jews and Christians practice a false religion could breed extremism, he said.
The school "must be sure to instruct students to have the utmost respect for other religions," Nawash said.
Nawash's criticism follows a report last month by a nonprofit group called Saudi Institute, also denouncing the school's curriculum. The institute advocates extensive reforms in Saudi Arabia.
Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for Council on American Islamic Relations, said he did not believe it was a good idea to explicitly criticize other religions to young children.
"Followers of most major faiths believe they have the correct religious teachings, but an affirmative belief in the truth of one's own faith should not lead to the disparagement of all others," Hooper said.
Still, Hooper said, if only a small portion of a lesson plan needed to be changed, it "hardly justifies sweeping charges of extremism."
The school, which teaches more than 1,000 pupils at campuses in Alexandria and Fairfax, did not return calls seeking comment. The school's Web site says the academy "promotes respect and mutual understanding between Muslims and non-Muslims, Arabs and Americans while keeping within the Muslim faith."
Nail al-Jubeir, a spokesman for the Saudi Embassy in Washington, also did not return calls. He told The Washington Times that critics of the textbook "are making a big thing out of nothing." The Saudi government provides money to the school.
The school's teachings have come under scrutiny since the Sept. 11 attacks. Federal court documents in a case against an academy graduate indicate that pupils' discussions after the attacks took an anti-American bent, and some pupils considered the attacks "payback" for what they saw as American mistreatment of the Muslim world.
Actually, just telling the little Islamofascists that murdering everyone who disagrees with them is wrong would be enough.
The enemy within.
Insecurity and fear and self doubt drives the brainwashing of young Muslims.
How can anybody teach Islam with out teaching what the Koran and the prophet promote?
We teach our kids that Islam is a false religion. They have the right to teach their kids their own beliefs! Geez, that is what our country is all about. We have no right to dictate to these people what is taught in their own schools.
Read what I wrote earlier (post #1), I think it is enough to teach them that killing of non-Muslims is wrong.
Well, I know Christians who say sh!t like that. Big deal. The real question is, given Islam's bloody primitive, savage history, why are we not skinning these muther's alive?
Keep that in mind when one of these kids gives you a C-4 enema...
I went to this school for grades 3-5, and they never taught us anything about Islam. Of course, back then, it was called Fairfax Christian Academy. The principal (Thorburn) later sold the school to the Saudis after they offered lots of money. Unfortunately, the Thorburns couldn't find another place to build their school: most of the other towns wouldn't let them build a new campus, even though they could have bought land. The school I went to was on Popes Head Road in Fairfax.
That's true insofar you consider this flavor of Mohammadenism pretty much benign. Which, IMO, it is not.
But I am glad that Hitler never decided to prosleytise America by declaring NazionalSocialisme a religion, which, undoubtedly, some of the more occult initiation and indoctrination practices of the SS could be compared with.
A religion that preaches your eventual demise transgresses any protections the host society offers since it has crossedover into a state of hostile ideology, rather than what it professes to be.
We have no right to dictate to these people what is taught in their own schools.
Keep that in mind when one of these kids gives you a C-4 enema...
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As much as it pisses me off, I have to say that I can't in good faith tell them how to teach their classes on the subject of religion. Every time a student is harassed for praying or talking about God, or a the 10 Commandments are removed from a building or public Christmas displays are banned even on church property, my right to practice my religion without government involvement is infringed. I can't in good faith advocate censoring the Constitutionally protected rights of others unless I am willing to make a moral concession that it is acceptable when done to my own religion.
Don't get me wrong, I want to nuke Iran and I think Islam is a fundamentally evil religion, I just can't take a hypocritical stand regardless of how angry I am.
Actually, Islam is a false religion according to Christianity, and I would hope that Christian schools are still free in this country to teach that. The issue is whether a religion is promoting and practicing violence against another faith.
bttt
Still, it's islamic violence that's particularly hard to tolerate for me.
I agree, I also realize that it is highly unlikely that the school would have textbooks promoting jihad, but it may be taught.
So, "Islam is the only true religion" is OK, but "All religions besides Islam are false" is not?"
Gonna have to vote with the First Amendment on this one. Point me to a passage in that textbook that says that infidels ought to be killed, and then we'll talk. Heaven knows that kind of thing is taught in Wahaabi schools.
I don't know what the muslims are doing in the US, if they don't like western ways.
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Truer words were never uttered. I got into a fairly heated exchange on FR last month with a Catholic who was telling our fellow Jewish freepers that they could waltz their merry little hearts into Heaven without ever submitting to Jesus in any way, shape or form.
Wolves in sheep's clothing, IMHO.
When do the children learn that Mohammad was a pedophile?
Wow! Only three years since 9-11 and a Muslim group finally takes a humane and sane stance against extremism.
This line of reasoning will be our undoing. Its not an illogical line of reasoning. On the contrary, its a very American line of reasoning, and quite logical. But this "religion" has proved for eons that it is a cult of death and destruction. Every country that has embraced it has suffered. It is a religion of deserts, war, and oppression. If Muslims were ever to occupy a majority in both houses of Congress as well as the executive branch, what then? What is to stop them from legislating Islam, in increments?
Remember how quickly Adolf Hitler rose to power.
I believe that teaching children to hate others, such that they ultimately become jihadists, and seek to kill infidels (non-muslims,) is child abuse. Thus, these schools should be closed and the children removed from those muslim homes. See my comments #4 and #5 below:
TERRORISM SOLUTION
Islam is NOT a religion – it is a CULT OF HATE.
Islam is an organization dominated by criminally minded thug-killer males who kill those who disagree with them or will not convert to their ideology. These men enslave and brutally abuse women and indoctrinate children with violent and hateful beliefs. They are intent on world domination by any means at their disposal, including bloody acts of terrorism and violent invasion. These demented men are under the delusion that they will receive 72 virgins as a reward for killing Jews and Christians.
Several steps are necessary to save America from the pending violence and tyranny of islam:
1) Congress to declare islam is NOT a religion, but instead a cult-of-hate functioning as an organized crime and terrorist association seeking to kill infidels (i.e.. Jews and Christians) and to impose islamic law on the world;
2) Congress to ban the practice of islam in the US, state legislatures to follow with similar state laws;
3) President to declare martial law (in response to certain-to-come terrorist attacks in US -- which was founded on Judeo/Christian principles) and suspend the constitution to enact these measures, in order to save this country;
4) Muslim schools shall be closed, because muslim schools teach children the violent tenants of islam (with no regard to reading, writing or computing) and such teaching amounts to child abuse,
5) Muslim parents, because of their beliefs, deemed unqualified to raise children (see TIME Magazine story, July 26, 2004, for further examples of muslim fathers/males who order their sons/brothers to kill sisters or mothers if they suspect their infidelity,) hence, child welfare agencies to remove children from muslim homes and place them in Jewish and Christian foster homes;
6) Adult muslims get 30 days to renounce islam and convert to a peaceful religion, or be immediately deported to a muslim country. If they renounce islam and stay, they shall enter a cult de-programming therapy program for 3-5 years. Those in this country illegally shall be deported immediately;
7) Immediately halt immigration from all islamic countries (except for persecuted Christians and Jews.) Deny immigration or entry to any muslim individual.
8) (removed by author so moderator doesn't ban me.)
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I agree on an emotional level. I have trouble reconciling what I want with what the Constitution allows. Many have already abandoned the Constitution, but that gives me no right to do so or to support acts in violation of the Constitution. The Constitution only applies to the Federal government however, so it might be possible to change the laws of NJ without being in direct conflict with the Constitution (though you can bet it will be in conflict with the judicial rulings of our out-of-control Supreme Court).
We've got to remember that the Constitution says that "Congress shall pass no laws" regarding religion or the free exercise thereof. I agree we have to deal with this growing plague, but we've got be careful to uphold the Constitution we're all responsible for defending at the same time.
As for the idea of Islam occupying a controlling share of the government of the US, that wouldn't happen (or if it did, I would not be around to worry about it). I seriously doubt that we'll be able to avoid another civil war long before that could happen, which will change the playing field dramatically (though for better or worse is up for debate).
Wait till they start getting vouchers ...
Actually, Hitler did want to revive pagan Norse god worship, blended with his ubermensch ideology.
Exactly. The US Constitution is not a suicide pact.
It's because they haven't been taught the Word.
I just don't get it, when they come to the US, yet want to bring their islamic world to the US with them.
What are these people here for, if they don't adopt our values, our practices and our way of life.
is it just the money, they're here for? since they don't adopt our customs, our practices or our ways.
No argument there, but I meant he didn't establish Nazi indoctrination centers under the guise of a religious house - like some of the mosques and schools that do.
Any Bund was quickly shut down. But we still allow the ideology that attacked us, wahhabism, to conduct operations in the US, simply because they state they're a religion and thus afforded protection.
They don't want to go to american schools.
They wouldn't eat american meat products, because the cattle haven't been slaughtered the islamic way.
they detest western practices and freedom for women.
they wouldn't let their women even dress the american way or socialize with men.
I mean you don't see them agree with a single american value, virtue, or practice.
They just don't make an effort to blend in and assimilate.
That's right. The only "horrible" thing this article points out, is that they teach their kids that everyone else has a "false" religion. Well, as a matter of fact, almost every Christian that I know, from every denomination, teaches the same thing! We believe that the true religion is through Christ Jesus.
I believe that it is already against the law to plan murder.
Exactly.
They won't even put the name of the school on their busses for fear of retribution ... just letters.
The world has indeed changed ... and not necessarily for the best.
So, Muslims are breeding future terrorists here in America, and if one of these "students" decides to kill some infidels at a mall can we close down that school? Or, will the Muslims's mouthpiece Hooper just explain it away as just one crazed student's mistaken interpretation of the "peace loving" Quran?
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