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Refinery burning all day long in Portugal; 32 firemen injured so far
http://www.portugaldiario.iol.pt/noticias/noticia.php?id=371051&art_id=371000 ^ | 04/07/31

Posted on 07/31/2004 3:49:30 PM PDT by Truth666

The fire started at Leixões, the oil terminal that supplies northern Portugal, after explosions heard at 2:PM, GMT. It has been burning out of control since then. Great danger that the underground pipelines will explode. Not getting coverage by international media.


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fire; oil
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One week ago beaches were evacuated because of wildfires. Again beaches evacuated, now because of this fire.
1 posted on 07/31/2004 3:49:32 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

You have WOT listed as a topic for this post, are they suspecting terrorism?


2 posted on 07/31/2004 3:57:23 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Truth666
Al-Queda will be smiling at $50 oil on Monday.

...and the drones of both parties refuse to take this war seriously and allow oil drilling and refinery construction within the borders of the U.S.

3 posted on 07/31/2004 3:58:38 PM PDT by snopercod (Fuerher is German for "leader".)
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To: Truth666

Poor firefighters, I hate it when they get hurt.


4 posted on 07/31/2004 3:59:09 PM PDT by Porterville (Your sensitivity offends me you disgusting liberal.)
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To: snopercod

Bump - plus we need more refineries here in America.


5 posted on 07/31/2004 4:01:06 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: nuconvert
Of course the chance of this being a terrorist act is not mentioned (remember how Madrid was handled in the first day ?).
But the whole thing is highly suspicious. For instance, two hours after the fire started, a gas pipeline exploded a few miles away. Yet the media doesn't link both events ...
6 posted on 07/31/2004 4:02:42 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

Now wasn't there an explosion this week at a gas plant in Belgium?

Now an oil refinery in Portugal?

I know they are investigating the cause of the explosion in Belgium, do they know the cause of this explosion?


7 posted on 07/31/2004 4:04:31 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Now wasn't there an explosion this week at a gas plant in Belgium?

Yup

8 posted on 07/31/2004 4:07:10 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
This part was interesting:

Gas distributor Fluxys said a leak was reported Friday morning in a natural gas line from the Belgian port of Zeebrugge to France. Half an hour later, after firefighters and police had arrived on the scene, the explosion occurred. Emergency workers were among the victims of the blast.

9 posted on 07/31/2004 4:09:36 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: nuconvert

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.portugaldiario.iol.pt%2Fnoticias%2Fnoticia.php%3Fid%3D364251%26art_id%3D371000&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=en

Here the news about the gas explosion. The fact that the refinery supplying 50% of Portugal is burning just miles away isn't even mentioned ...


10 posted on 07/31/2004 4:10:05 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: dawn53

Portugal has supported us in the WOT. Belgium has been with the French, IIRC.


11 posted on 07/31/2004 4:14:55 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: BenLurkin
Bump - plus we need more refineries here in America.

Can you back that up? Refineries are located when oil comes in (ports) or where it is produced. Where in the United States are we lacking in refineries. We may need to expand capacity in our existing refineries, but building more, willy nilly across America is going to help anything.

12 posted on 07/31/2004 4:24:30 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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Well, if we can expand capacity at the existing refineries then it would help alleviate the pressure on oil prices.

If that is not possible then building new refineries is very desirable for our national interests.

True, they would tend to be found in the areas where oil is drilled or shipped in.
13 posted on 07/31/2004 4:28:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: nuconvert

"Oil Refinery Fires - 2004

July 12
Refinery Blaze - Norway
July 11
Oil Refinery - W. Deptford, NJ
Ashland Marathon Oil Refinery - St. Paul Park, MN
June 17
Rotterdam Oil Refinery - Rotterdam, Netherlands
June 16
Haifa Oil Refinery - Haifa, Israel
June 5
Oil Storage Depot - Neftekumsk, Russia
June 4
Oil Refinery - Trainer, PA
May 25
Pipeline Fire - Venezuela
May 24
Pipeline Fire - Olympic, WA
May 14
Murphy Oil Refinery - Chalmette, LA
April 9
Giant Industries Refinery - Gallup, NM
April 1
Exxon Mobil Chemical Plant - Baytown TX
March 30
Texas City Refinery, BP - Texas City, TX
March 27
Fire Flint Hills Resources - Rosemount, MN
March 23
Tulsa Refinery, Sunoco - Tulsa, OK
March 9
Marathon Ashland Petroleum - Garyville, LA
February 20
Tesoro Refinery - Martinez, CA
February 1
ConocoPhillips Wood River Refinery - Roxana, IL"


14 posted on 07/31/2004 4:39:09 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: BenLurkin
Well, if we can expand capacity at the existing refineries then it would help alleviate the pressure on oil prices.

Oil prices are really affected by oil supply and demand. Gasoline prices can be affected by the lack of refining capacity, but you would think, as expensive as gasoline is, we would be using less, not more.

15 posted on 07/31/2004 4:45:31 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes

Good point!

You're right - I meant gas prices.


16 posted on 07/31/2004 5:02:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: Truth666

It's fairly shocking that there would fires at oil refineries, what with them being filled with tens of thousands of gallons of explosive and flammable liquids and gases and all.

So did you bother to compare the number of oil refinery fires so far this year to the number of oil refinery fires last year? In 2000? 1998?


17 posted on 07/31/2004 5:04:27 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Truth666

Interesting.
I don't know how this compares with years past.
I thought there had been a lot of fires this year in Texas, but people who live there said they happen alot, and this didn't seem like an unusual year.


18 posted on 07/31/2004 6:26:00 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Strategerist
I was researching a bit more and I got to the conclusion that the list still far under the real numbers.
Here is an example :
ANKARA, July 25 (AFP) - Dozens of fire fighters on Sunday managed to bring under control a fire at an oil refinery in southern Turkey after hours of battling the flames, the refinery said in a statement. http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=23127
19 posted on 08/01/2004 12:57:39 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: dawn53

It's always the same pattern : investigation announced immediately, never hear about it anymore. Check also the article on the fire in the turkish refinery.


20 posted on 08/01/2004 1:55:04 AM PDT by Truth666
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