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France 'forming ethnic ghettoes'
BBC ^ | July 6, 2004 | Caroline Wyatt

Posted on 07/31/2004 6:13:39 AM PDT by jalisco555

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To: Mears

Germany already has the same issue. There are at least 100 different ghettoes already...some black African and most are Muslim in nature. You see the same in England, and its also in the US as well. It is typical of our society.


21 posted on 07/31/2004 7:26:03 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Henchman

Besides we're doing the same thing --- we're developing into ethnic ghettoes and also bringing in all kinds of Muslims who are moving here for the same reason they're moving to France. And it's not to assimilate.


22 posted on 07/31/2004 7:32:42 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: jalisco555

'Camp of the Saints' should be required reading.


23 posted on 07/31/2004 7:32:57 AM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Mamzelle
We ought to forbid the hijab in schools. Let 'em stay home if they don't like it. Does a Muslim girl need to read?

Of course she does. The only way these women will ever free themselves from the subjugation of their radical Islamist oppressors is through knowledge of the wider world. Smart, well-educated women who think for themselves is the thing the Islamists fear above all else.

24 posted on 07/31/2004 7:34:18 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: jalisco555
Terrorists are generally well-educated in Western schools. Education does not seem to help against the Murder Cult.

I've done a lot of reading in Islam. The Koran (too tedious and dreary for words)--Al Hadith, the Sunnah. Lately I've been exploring the four general "denominations"--Wahabbists are given a lot of play in the media, but all factions of Islam involve an ideology of domination and subjugation. The more you read--the worse it gets. Even the seemingly benign abstractions of "jihad" involve the ambition to bring Dar al Harb under the subjection of Sharia.

We do our nation a disservice to call Islam a religion. It's an ideology as much as fascism or communism. If we can't see what it is, and lose our fine distinctions--

Hijab doesn't belong in public schools any more than gang garments or a KKK robe.

You'll see too soon.

25 posted on 07/31/2004 7:44:54 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: pepsionice
We, in the states, don't have the same issue. We have the 2nd Amendment (at least for now).

We also have widely varying trespassing laws.

Committing a crime is like real work when the victim is as well armed as the criminal.

It's one of the main ideas behind muslim "humiliation", we can fight back, and they hate that.
26 posted on 07/31/2004 7:54:37 AM PDT by Anvilhead (When danger reared its ugly head, Brave Sir Robin turned and fled)
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To: RedWhiteBlue; jalisco555; Mamzelle
A very interesting article and a couple of quotes from it.

Douce France

"And then you learn what Jacques Chirac -- who now has a Muslim grandchild himself -- and Dominique de Villepin, do not wish you to learn. For if you did, you might be very angry. You discover that 1 out of every 3 babies born in France today is a Muslim baby. And that means, in 20 years, one of every three 20-year-olds in France will be a Muslim twenty-year-old. And that means, twenty years after that, at present rates of reproduction, France will have a majority Muslim population."...

"For the moment, you allow yourself to believe that something will come up. Most likely, all those Muslims will simply convert. I mean, they do that, don't they, quite easily I'm told. Of course, why didn't I think of it, that is exactly what will happen. The situation is always saved in time. Just like during the war. Nothing to worry about. Nothing."

27 posted on 07/31/2004 8:02:38 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: jalisco555
Not news to many of us but maybe the French denial will begin to crack.

No way. They are always right.

Let the native french daughters be raped and their sons subjugated. It may be a lesson to the rest of the world.

28 posted on 07/31/2004 8:25:32 AM PDT by Nov3
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To: texasbluebell

Yes, I read that piece when it came out. Very sad and disturbing.


29 posted on 07/31/2004 8:36:43 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: texasbluebell

Excellent article by a Frog. A must read.


30 posted on 07/31/2004 8:42:57 AM PDT by Nov3
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To: jalisco555
Countries will fail if they support: 1.Open Borders, and 2.Socialism/Welfare/FreeHousing. These things don't mix too well. Watching France is like viewing a 25-year train wreck. What happens to France with the Muslims is what will happen to the U.S. in 35-50 years with the Mexicans & Muslims. Not gonna be pretty, but will be fun to watch.

Oh yea, to solve any ethnic problem, all a government has to do is give them mo' money or "rights". This is a win-win situation as government expands and minorities (for now) get free money. Nobody loses, everybody wins.

31 posted on 07/31/2004 8:54:20 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: jalisco555

Excellent targets for ICBMs and SLBMs.


32 posted on 07/31/2004 8:57:14 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: jalisco555; Nov3

Yes, very sad article, and his comment about Chirac's moslem grandchild goes towards explaining what's going on with Chirac to some extent...not to mention de Villepin having been born in Morocco.


33 posted on 07/31/2004 9:02:58 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: valkyrieanne

Very good post, valkyrieanne.

France, for all its faults, is very anti-multiculturalist. Let's not forget that the French population isn't entirely clueless about the problem with Jean-Marie Lepen of the National Front receiving more votes than the Socialist candidate in the last presidential election. Someone call me when we see a major presidential candidate in this country who's opposed to the Mexican invasion.


34 posted on 07/31/2004 9:52:41 AM PDT by French-American Republican
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To: texasbluebell

"...not to mention de Villepin having been born in Morocco."

Morocco was a French protectorate. Usually ethnically French people born in Morocco are more anti-Muslim than those born on French soil. My mother was born in Morocco and currently contributes like mad to the Front National. And then there are the Sephardic Jews, and I don't even need to explain what they think about Arabs. I think de Villepin's being born in Morocco is beside the point.


35 posted on 07/31/2004 9:57:05 AM PDT by French-American Republican
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To: 7.62 x 51mm; Capt. Tom; Crawdad; Eric in the Ozarks; FITZ; French-American Republican; Guillermo; ..
The areas studied were chosen because they already had problems with unemployment, crime and violence, had a high proportion of immigrant families - some still practising polygamy - plus a growing number of Islamic prayer rooms as well as frequent anti-Western and anti-Semitic graffiti.
When the coordinated riots start -- which they will, and god knows, there will be ethnically French participants -- the goal of the rioters will be to overthrow the French gov't and destroy things like Notre Dame. It's a safe guess that the US will be called on to help at some point.

We should have our story straight about the post-war political conditions that will prevail in France before we ever set foot there (again). Not to say that the French uphold agreements -- the Franco-Prussian war lasted seven weeks officially, but the suicide-prone chauvanist drunk enclaves who refused to accept the agreement (although they'd never had a problem living under Napoleon III, who made the agreement), or the next one, kept the war going by mounting attacks here and there, and it led to massive bloodshed (almost entirely French blood).

Number one, they'll classify Islam as a political, not religious movement. Number two, they'll ban Islam, in the same way that they ban Nazi organizations and display of Nazi paraphernalia. Number three, the rest of the EU -- and the US -- follow suit in both cases. Next, Islamic gov'ts will be tossed from the UN, and secular, exile gov'ts are seated in their place. Islam will then be classified as fascism (which it is; the Quran is a medieval Mein Kampf) by a resolution of the General Assembly. Next battlefield, India.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent
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36 posted on 07/31/2004 10:30:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv
I'm inclined to agree with you SC, almost 100%. It's going to get ugly and bloody, and most of the slaughter will be the disarmed Frenchies.

Of course, the same could be said for 50 2-man Muslim Terrorist sniper teams here in the US. Look at what paralysis The Beltway Snipers Shooters™ wreaked in the DC-VA-MD areas, back in Oct '02.

What surprises me is that it hasn't already started in earnest.

37 posted on 07/31/2004 10:59:47 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: texasbluebell

Wow, nice piece of writing, and very, very prophetic, I'm betting. The average Frenchie has no idea of what's coming. And the government doesn't give a rat's rearend.


38 posted on 07/31/2004 11:09:35 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Mamzelle

Yes, but the hijab is beside the point. The point it that Muslim immigration should be stopped.


39 posted on 07/31/2004 11:16:33 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated. Thank you, President Bush.)
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To: French-American Republican

This is why I like Freerepublic so much. There's always another way to look at something! Always a viewpoint that I would never have thought of.

Thanks for that post.


40 posted on 07/31/2004 11:28:10 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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