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Masters & Johnson. Homosexuality in Perspective. (40%+ of gays in study were sexually reoriented)
New Direction ^ | 1979 | William H. Masters and Virginia E. Johnson

Posted on 07/27/2004 9:05:34 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Homosexuality in Perspective. Boston: Little, Brown and Company, 1979.

Brief Description: Between 1968 and 1977, the Masters and Johnson Institute worked with 67 clients and their opposite-sex partners who came to them for the treatment of "homosexual dissatisfaction."

Stated Goal of Therapy/Treatment:

Conversion or reversion to heterosexuality. enabling clients to function heterosexually, so they can then choose how they want to live. No specific attempt was made to reduce or eliminate homosexual behaviour, desires or fantasies...

Length of Treatment:

2 weeks, with daily therapy sessioons.

... At the time of publication, follow-up ranged from 1 to 5 years. While the goal was a five year follow-up, some clients had only been treated within the past five years(pp. 400-401).

Clients who successfully completed treatment without returning to homosexuality or being "lost to follow-up":

23 males, and 6 females, a total of 29 out of 67 original clients.

**Minimum Final Success Rate: 43.2%**: Clients who successfully completed treatment without returning to homosexuality or being "lost to follow-up".

Cross References: Nicolosi# 10 HAFS# 1-3

Reviewed and Critiqued in: Diamant 1987, Fine 1987, Gonsiorek 1981, Haldeman 1991, Haldeman 10994, Harry 1984.

(Excerpt) Read more at newdirection.ca ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: conversiontherapy; exgays; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; mastersandjohnson; reconversiontherapy; spitzer; spitzerstudy
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Since then similiar studies have been conducted on therapy of homosexuality and smiliar results have been obtained, with a conversion to heterosexuality rate of between 30-50%. The most recent study that shows the success of converion therapy is the Spitzer study which can be obtained at:

http://www.narth.com

1 posted on 07/27/2004 9:05:37 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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This study has been posted here at FreeRepublic to highlight the fact that successful therapy of homosexuality is not a recnt phenomena. Successful therapy of homosexuality has been documented numerous times before and after 1973, when homosexual behavior was declared to be "normal", despite there being no scientific evidence given at that time(1973) to prove that homosexual behavior is, indeed, normal behavior.


2 posted on 07/27/2004 9:09:45 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: scripter; little jeremiah; Coleus; EdReform; streetpreacher

I thought you might like to look at this study by Masters & Johnson. It shows that therapy of homosexuality is indeed quite possible, and effective, and not just a recent phenomena.


3 posted on 07/27/2004 9:12:03 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
And that success rate occurred when the stigma against homosexuality was largely intact.

Subsequently, as homosexuality has become more socially acceptable in large segments of society, especially among the elites, and elite youth in high school and college, there has been a large increase in experimental homosexuality (Voltaire's one is philosophy, twice is perversion? or the male s**k one c**k and you're always a c**ks**ker) or situational homosexuality (i.e. college women, especially at the traditional women's colleges, who are LUGs lesbians until graduation -- was shocked when I first heard that one from Mt. Holyoke and Smith faculty members), leading many to come out and find themselves more or less committed to a homosexual lifestyle (which seems fun and glamorous to the average 18 year old freed from parently constraint, but without moral grounding). I daresay that many more current homosexuals would successfully reintegrate into heterosexual behavior than during the M&J era.

4 posted on 07/27/2004 9:17:51 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Homosexuality is about easy sex and no consequences, at least in the immediate future. It is an evil perversion and a result of the curse upon mankind.


5 posted on 07/27/2004 9:22:02 AM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think the only problem is that the homosexual community is in denial. They don't want to be cured, they want to be seen as normal.


6 posted on 07/27/2004 9:28:31 AM PDT by TommyDale ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." --Hillary Clinton)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; Laissez-faire capitalist
Bump & Ping


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

7 posted on 07/27/2004 9:38:58 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is very interesting. I think when you commit any kind of "sin"...(whether it be sexual or otherwise) it is always easier to break the habit and have a different perspective when you can get away from it for a while and have someone counseling you--opening your eyes to the truth or "another way" of thinking about that behavior. IT is like an "ahah" experience...and you often can't believe you ever thought the way you did. I have certainly been there before. I only wish more gay folks would ask themselves WHY they are gay versus accepting it as a genetic trait. I hate to say it but I almost always have found an invasive parent or adult somewhere in their past.


8 posted on 07/27/2004 9:44:32 AM PDT by applpie
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

That settles it then. Fifty percent of all homosexuals must be faking it.


9 posted on 07/27/2004 9:46:37 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: TommyDale

They don't want to be cured, they want to be seen as normal.


Indeed.

An excerpt from the 'Culture of Vice'

"... The homosexual movement's rationalization is far more widely advanced in its claims. According to Jeffrey Levi, former executive director for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, “We (homosexuals) are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a right to protection from wrong. We have a right - as heterosexuals have already - to see government and society affirm our lives.” Since only the act of sodomy differentiates an active homosexual from a heterosexual, homosexuals want “government and society” to affirm that sodomy is morally equivalent to the marital act. “Coming out of the closet” can only mean an assent on the level of moral principle to what would otherwise be considered morally disordered.

And so it must be. If you are going to center your public life on the private act of sodomy, you had better transform sodomy into a highly moral act. If sodomy is a moral disorder, it cannot be legitimately advanced on the legal or civil level. On the other hand, if it is a highly moral act, it should serve as the basis for marriage, family (adoption), and community. As a moral act, sodomy should be normative. If it is normative, it should be taught in our schools as a standard. In fact, homosexuality should be hieratic: active homosexuals should be ordained as priests. All of this is happening. It was predictable. The homosexual cause moved naturally from a plea for tolerance to cultural conquest. How successful that conquest has been can be seen in the poverty of the rhetoric of its opponents. In supporting the Defense of Marriage Act, the best one congressman could do was to say, “America is not yet ready for homosexual marriage,” as if we simply need a decent interval to adjust ourselves to its inevitable arrival..."


10 posted on 07/27/2004 9:54:50 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Thanks for the ping. I will check it out.


11 posted on 07/27/2004 9:58:55 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: lentulusgracchus; ArGee

Ping


12 posted on 07/27/2004 10:03:00 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
...despite there being no scientific evidence given at that time(1973) to prove that homosexual behavior is, indeed, normal behavior.

As a general matter, what is "normal behavior"? Cause I got some friends and, I tell ya, they just ain't right.
13 posted on 07/27/2004 10:03:57 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; EdReform; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

- Homosexual Agenda Ping List -

People CAN change, people DO change. The fault here lies with media and homosexual apologists who for the last few decades have been telling our children, "Forget about it...if you're gay, you're gay and nothing can be done...just accept it!"

Through Christ, all things can be made new.

2 Chron 7:14 - "if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land."

(If you want on or off this ping list, please FReepmail me. If not completely satisfied with contents of post, please return unused portion within 30 days for a full refund. Offer valid in 49 states. Void where prohibited by law.)


14 posted on 07/27/2004 10:53:53 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("I am the wretch that the song refers to.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Not surprising. What is surprising is that this success rate is higher than almost all treatments for clinical depression, anxiety, addiction, and most other mental disorders.

But according to our lying media and psych community, the only way SSAD people can find true fulfillment is to carry out every disgusting idea that comes into their head on a regular basis. To do otherwise is to deny their true selves.
15 posted on 07/27/2004 11:15:52 AM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: BikerNYC
As a general matter, what is "normal behavior"?

I may not know what it is, but it isn't sticking your d*ck in someone elses a**hole.

Shalom.

16 posted on 07/27/2004 11:45:42 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: ArGee

Perhaps. How 'bout in someone else's mouth?


17 posted on 07/27/2004 11:47:22 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: EdReform

In all seriousness, I appreciate the report highlight but why are we obsessed with their agenda? Let's get real people and focus on priority - Bush's economy, national security. Yes, I read the report but guess what? Gays are here. They are not going away. Will and Grace is on TV everynight! This is old news. It's not the gays that will be destroying this nation it is Kerry's friggin policies! As republicans can we not see what happened to us in 1992 when we let this destroy our campaign. We are taking the liberal bait once again!


18 posted on 07/27/2004 11:51:04 AM PDT by Nixoncrat (Be Right and be right. Be Left and be left behind.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hmmm.... I might be the only one here to disagree but I think that once you go gay, you STAY. There ain't no going back. Okay, maybe it might be possible for lesbians (not 100% sure about that). But my observation about gay guys is that it is PERMANENT condition.


19 posted on 07/27/2004 11:57:31 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: tdadams

what a suprise... the 10% of the population ends up being really near 2%... then only half of that is it "full time" and i promise, most of them have some sort of issues predating the "homosexual phase" of their lives.

gee, how "normal" is a fraction of 1%?


20 posted on 07/27/2004 12:15:12 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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