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Spy claims Israel assassinated JFK
WorldNetDaily ^ | 7/25/04 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 07/25/2004 7:06:08 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: calenel

Well, Dimona is quite an old nuclear-power plant, built during the late 1950s when France and Israel closely cooperated on nuclear physics. But I suppose the older parts have long been dismantled and gave way to newer systems. Plus, what happened at Chernobyl is that the operators willingly shut down the security systems in an attempt to develop a new way of using the plant (IIRC).


41 posted on 07/26/2004 3:13:01 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

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42 posted on 07/26/2004 7:03:36 AM PDT by SJackson (He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has 10 times since 1983, Sandy Berger)
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To: SJackson

T.F.T.P


43 posted on 07/26/2004 7:19:17 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!! Molon Labe,F***ers!!!)
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To: wagglebee

This is the kind of loony crap you read at Stormfront, etc. Israel should have executed this nutcake.


44 posted on 07/26/2004 7:20:09 AM PDT by veronica (Hate-triotism, the religion of leftists, liberals, anti-semites, and other cranks...)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Further, it also shows that Kennedy was unhit (is that a cromulant word?) less than half a second (possibly zero)before Connolly.

That's not how I saw it in the film. After Kennedy is already reaching for his throat and Connelly was turning around toward him he briefly began to turn back and then you can see his face begin to show expression of pain from the hit he just received.

There's too much time elapsing in Connelly's reaction for it to have been the single bullet causing all those injuries in my opinion. The film clearly demonstrates what Mrs. Connelly had said occurred that day. And she wasn't the only who made the claims of separate hits, Governor Connelly did too. He was adamant about it from the very beginning.

The discredited two separate bullets theory suggested that Oswald would not have time to reload in that time (ignoring the zero timegap possibilty).

Exactly, that's why in all likelihood there were at least two gunman and may explain to me anyway what appears to be Mrs. Connelly staring briefly in the direction of the grassy knoll just prior to Kennedy's fatal hit. It was almost as if she had seen or heard something coming from there.

But even setting aside the single or two bullet theories you haven't addressed Kennedy's head movement, which was violently to the back and left. In a press conference immediately following the assassination a government spokesman (his name escapes me at the moment) pointed to his right temple in explaining where Kennedy was hit. Was that a coincidence given what we see on the film and what strongly appears to be a frontal hit?

I will be fascinated how the Oswald got the job becasue he was selected as a patsy crowd reconciles that.

The Tom Dillard photo taken seconds after the fatal hit shows Oswald in the window next to the open one looking out. It's him so claims he was a patsy ring hollow, he was up on the sixth floor and was firing shots or was with someone else who was.

45 posted on 07/26/2004 7:23:35 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: wagglebee

Vanunu knew!


46 posted on 07/26/2004 7:25:49 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: wagglebee
IMHO Castro had Kennedy killed, and the US shunning of Cuba is the revenge we are extracting for this act, and the embargo will end when Castro dies.

Why Castro wasn't just bumped off in kind is a mystery to me, perhaps because it was too embarassing to admit Castro succeeded, who knows...

47 posted on 07/26/2004 7:26:58 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Michael.SF.
It is over looked by many how close Jim Garrison got to getting a conviction in the trial in New Orleans.

His book on the subject convinced me that Oswald was used.

Sure Oswald may have been used by those with an agenda. Whether it was the New Orleans mafia or the Cubans I'm not sure we'll ever know. But he was up on the sixth floor that day and his claims of being a patsy were bogus.

48 posted on 07/26/2004 7:29:53 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Tinfoil ping...


49 posted on 07/26/2004 7:35:08 AM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: wagglebee
>Mordechai Vanunu said in an interview published today that Israel was behind the 1963 assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy


Come on! Everyone
knows that DiMaggio whacked
JFK ... and why ...


50 posted on 07/26/2004 7:39:59 AM PDT by theFIRMbss (Thunderbirds are GO in 4 . . .)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
But he was up on the sixth floor that day

Agreed

his claims of being a patsy were bogus.

Disagree.

If your interested in learning a bit more on the subject, read Jim Garrison's book and take a closer look at Clay Shaw and why he was not convicted.

51 posted on 07/26/2004 7:54:45 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The Democrats can claim: People, too stupid to vote correctly, cost them the 2000 election.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
You can clearly see in the Zapruder film Connally's right arm jerk at the same exact moment Kennedy jerks and starts to reach for his throat. It's clear they were both hit at the same time by the same bullet.

As for the infamous head shot, you can see Kennedy's head snap violently foward at the moment of impact (this occurs very quickly within one or two frames) then back, which clearly shows the bullet impacted on the BACK of Kennedy's head, not the front.

While Oswald may not have acted alone in killing JFK, it does seem likely he was the triggerman and was responsible for the killing shot.
52 posted on 07/26/2004 7:57:50 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Liberalism is the end result of too many people peeing in the gene pool.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

53 posted on 07/26/2004 8:02:05 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Michael.SF.

If you mean by patsy that Oswald did not know he was being used then I could agree if that were proven but only in a limited sense. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt, for example he was on the sixth floor, as we both agree he was but with someone else doing the shooting that would still make him an accomplice whether he was aware of the higher agenda or not. Before the shots rang out he had to know what was going down yet made no attempt to stop it.


54 posted on 07/26/2004 8:38:16 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest (I)
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To: reagan_fanatic
You can clearly see in the Zapruder film Connally's right arm jerk at the same exact moment Kennedy jerks and starts to reach for his throat.

What explains the fact Connelly continues to normally hold on to his hat following the first hit? It would seem to me that if a bullet passed through his wrist that would not have been the case and reinforces my belief in separate hits.

As for the infamous head shot, you can see Kennedy's head snap violently foward at the moment of impact (this occurs very quickly within one or two frames) then back, which clearly shows the bullet impacted on the BACK of Kennedy's head, not the front.

There was some slight head movement forward suggesting a back head hit which I'm not necessarily disputing. But the violent back and left motion indicates a frontal hit, so it's very possible two gunmen hit him at the same time. The "jet effect" theory is too unbelievable for me.

55 posted on 07/26/2004 8:59:36 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest (I)
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To: defenderSD

Throwing the rifle at JFK would have been about as effective as using it to shoot at him. It was a piece of junk and hadn't been fired in months if ever. There is no record or even hint that Ozzie even bought ammo for it nor any excess found.


56 posted on 07/26/2004 9:08:24 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
The story I have garnered from several books is this:

Clay Shaw, who was a CIA contract agent, was acting independent of the CIA in a plot to kill JFK. Who hired Shaw for this is not known and subject to speculation.

Oswald was working for Shaw in New Orleans, believing the work he was doing was really for the CIA. Shaw convinced him to go to Dallas, ostensibly on a CIA assignment.

The 'CIA' (Shaw) wanted to expose the weakness of the security around the President by 'staging' an attempt on JFK. This was Oswald's assignment: fire the shots at JFK, but not hit him.

As Oswald did this, the real killer(s) also opened fire, killing JFK.

Now, imagine for a second that you are Oswald and you fire toward the president, but then see his head get blown off. At that point Oswald knew he had been had.

Is the above scenario true? Jim Garrison believed it was and only because of a technicality was he not able to convict Clay Shaw of conspiracy to kill JFK.

This scenario also explains why the CIA did a lot of things to protect themselves. They were not directly involved, but plenty of people associated with them were, so it was CYA time, big time. This scenario also puts the gun in Oswald's hands but allows him to say "I didn't shoot anybody." As was caught on tape and analyzed to be a truthful statement.

57 posted on 07/26/2004 9:11:54 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The Democrats, bringing decorum back to politics..................."SHOVE IT" - Mrs. Ketchup)
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To: Michael.SF.
but then see his head get blown off

Correction:

but then see his head get blown off apart

58 posted on 07/26/2004 9:15:32 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The Democrats, bringing decorum back to politics..................."SHOVE IT" - Mrs. Ketchup)
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To: Shooter 2.5

There are conspiracy theorists who contend that separate bullets hitting Connelly and Kennedy came from different directions. Many of them I agree are not plausible. If there were separate shots both came from behind, most likely the Depository and the Dal-Tex building. The shot that damaged the curb appears to be more directly in line with the Dal-Tex building.


59 posted on 07/26/2004 9:21:42 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest (I)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Throwing the rifle at JFK would have been about as effective as using it to shoot at him. It was a piece of junk and hadn't been fired in months if ever. There is no record or even hint that Ozzie even bought ammo for it nor any excess found."

I disagree completely with your statement. To learn more about the JFK asassination, I suggest you read the book Case Closed by Gerald Posner, which is generally available at Barnes & Noble bookstores.

60 posted on 07/26/2004 9:31:11 AM PDT by defenderSD (The number of people who lie about space aliens for $ far exceeds the number of aliens on earth.)
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