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TIMES NAILS THE ILLEGAL PROBLEM
Fiedor Report On the News #309 ^ | 7-24-04 | Doug Fiedor

Posted on 07/24/2004 10:59:17 AM PDT by forest

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To: Imagine
I'd like to modify item #5 to include: The ins, border patrol and any and all other organizations whose function involve controlling immigration and patrolling our borders, shall be paid for completely by a reduction in foreign aid to mexico and all other central/south american countries.

Don't bill them - make them pay up front.

61 posted on 07/24/2004 7:02:07 PM PDT by glockmeister40
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To: ridesthemiles

The border is at every airport.

All states have to get used to the very old fact of life, every state has a border even if it is only an airport gate.


62 posted on 07/24/2004 8:15:02 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: forest

$760 for every taxpayer.

In AZ, illegals cost every household $740 per year, according to Lou Dobbs.


I just got my real-estate tax bill. On it, 12% of my real-estate taxes go for "indigent medical care." 12%! We've had an increase in the latino population of 40% since 2000 in Nevada. We have the fastest growing latino population in the United States in Las Vegas. That's probably why our taxes all across the board have skyrocketed! And we've got the problems that go along with the invasion. Crime is soaring. We don't feel safe anymore.

Where does this mania stop?




63 posted on 07/24/2004 8:18:31 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: forest
Clinton did nothing. Negligence in office, it's called. Bush is correcting.

Yeah. I noticed how quickly he closed the boarders.

64 posted on 07/24/2004 8:21:28 PM PDT by null and void (Nurieek, rotut, hernunger...)
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To: Joe Hadenuf; forest
Because, the federal government only has a total of 2,300 federal agents assigned to apprehend them. ~ forest

Anyone want to guess how many people work for the IRS? ~ Joe Hadenuf

Ummmmmm, 42?

65 posted on 07/24/2004 8:31:13 PM PDT by null and void (Nurieek, rotut, hernunger...)
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To: FITZ

Bravo to your Post 44!


66 posted on 07/24/2004 8:37:38 PM PDT by Nea Wood (You know, I think the best possible social program is a job. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: forest

But the Wall Street Journal says they're all taxpayers - and besides,they work cheap and don't join unions!


(Do I really need to put in the little "slash sarcasm" note here?)


67 posted on 07/24/2004 8:47:25 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: Missouri
this treacherous policy of Clinton is what he should be remembered by. Its almost like genocide

On a technical interpretation of the word, that's precisely what it is. They literally would like to drive our genetics out of existence. At least in the United States.

This process is turbo-charged by things like Affirmative Action, which serves to reduce the aggregate income of those not in the favored groups: thereby making them less able to support large families. So, fewer of their genes around in the future...

It's remarkable. Between abortion on demand, affirmative action for immigrants who have no claim to any prior damages by the United States, district gerrymandering to guarantee the election of a "underrepresented group", the net effect is to drive the native population to it's minimum, which may be zero. It's hard to believe that a supposedly sovereign people voted to do this to themselves, and continue to do so.

The first major democracy on Earth, and it failed by legislating itself out of existence.

68 posted on 07/24/2004 8:51:57 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: FITZ

Remember, "Only White US Citizens Can Be Racist!"


69 posted on 07/24/2004 8:55:47 PM PDT by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

But don't you know that cheap labor benefits our economy? Why, without it, our way of life would just fall apart!

My real estate taxes have gone up about $1000 per year in the last 4 years.

Sh**, I guess that cheap labor isn't so cheap.


70 posted on 07/24/2004 9:00:25 PM PDT by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast; forest
Here's a little interesting background reading.


"Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the hope the information will make it to the general public. A flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1178010/posts

71 posted on 07/24/2004 9:02:54 PM PDT by Doug Fiedor
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To: FITZ
The government actually decided that the substinence farmers had to go -- their way of life had to be destroyed, they had no right to do what they had done for generations --- survive in their own country

What's new about the Conquistadors wiping out the indigeanos in Nueva Espana? That's who the families are: the descendants of the patrons, the land grantees. Salinas de Gortari, Echeverria, Lopez Portillo, the Polancos, the whole gang. Too many peons for the Hacienda to support? Drive them out - swords, disease, imported grain, whatever. All works the same.

72 posted on 07/24/2004 9:07:08 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

That's because we have to be "sensitive", "concerned", and "altruistic".

I don't know. Are Americans more susceptible to this sort of BS than other groups?

I don't think that MS-13 gang-banger on the street corner is spending as much time being concerned about MY welfare as I am "supposed" to be about HIS.

What, am I supposed to be GUILTY about something? Hmm, you know, that guilt trip stuff, never worked on me. The gang-banger made his choices, I made mine.

Don't talk about "poverty" or "bad circumstances" or "racism" or any of that CRAP to me. They're excuses which allow the screwups in our society to avoid dealing with their problems.


73 posted on 07/24/2004 9:12:38 PM PDT by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
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To: Travelgirl; TheBattman

Ping!


74 posted on 07/24/2004 9:12:41 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: freeangel

"Fox has decided that it is our problem to keep these illegals"

Do you mean Vincente Fox or FOX News? Both have the same view of what we should be doing with the illegals. I heard O'Reily last night clammering for the "guestworker" program. What a crock of sh--. Ask the Germans about their guestworker program - IT DOESN'T WORK- "guests" won't go home now that Germany doesn't need them (slow economic growth). So Germany is stuck with them - mostly worthless bums. O'Reily doesn't know what he is talking about.


75 posted on 07/24/2004 9:13:58 PM PDT by RepublicanHippy
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To: brianl703
That's because we have to be "sensitive", "concerned", and "altruistic"

Yup. Or else we're mean people.

All that rot was just dreamed up to make us vulnerable. It's a stick to beat over our heads. Don't like an alien invasion force showing up to push you out of your country? We'll call you names and try to make you feel guilty, so that you acquiesce to what we're trying to do to you.

I made a mistake when I said that we are legislating ourselves out of existence. Actually, the things I mentioned have never actually been the subject of real legislation, but rather are the result of Executive Orders, agency regulations, and court decisions. The crap that we live under would never survive a vote, because it's so patently suicidal.

If we ever change that, the country might survive.

76 posted on 07/24/2004 9:23:16 PM PDT by Regulator (Your tagline was great)
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To: Regulator

"We'll call you names and try to make you feel guilty, so that you acquiesce to what we're trying to do to you."

A fine example of which can be found in post #18.


77 posted on 07/24/2004 10:09:11 PM PDT by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
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To: american spirit

"Ask any family that has been traumatized by an assault on a loved one by some cretin that shouldn't even here if their pain is any less than those of the 9/11 families..."

You're right. We won't hold our breath for the 2 to 4 million the 9/11 families got to compensate Americans for this invasion, and it's gonna get worse before it gets better.


78 posted on 07/24/2004 10:30:41 PM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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To: FITZ

Wake up, Fitz. You should know by now that only American Christian White Males (in that order) are capable of racism. Mexico enforces its own immigration laws very strictly. But that's OK, since they were oppressed for decades by American imperialism.

The open borders Jihadis, like one ones showing up on this thread, are really nothing more than leftist neo-Jacobins who call themselves "conservatives." They're the kind of conservative a Marxist like Kerry feels comfortable inviting to a cocktail paahty. Just greedy leftists who would like more ways to evade taxes themselves while foisting them upon the "little people" (to quote one Leona Helmsley). They have no loyalty to the traditional majority population of America or to its culture - only to a global marketplace with no moral constraints upon their business activities. In fact, these so-called "conservatives" frequently parrot Marxist slogans about the great benefits of multiculturalism. They are actually leftists - Gramscian Bobos - who aren't honest enough to admit their true loyalities. The tragedy is that they've largely hijacked the Republican party to go along with their nihilistic materialist agenda.


79 posted on 07/24/2004 10:56:11 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: brianl703

What you are describing - the costs to taxpayers of illegal immigrants - is a huge form of corporate welfare. Employers who hire illegals are all in favor of free welfare, medical care, and schooling for illegals and their families. How do you like subsidizing Wal-Mart, et al with your property taxes, etc.? You think the fat cats running the show at those companies are paying anything resembling the percentage of your income taken through taxation? (No, I'm not advocating increased taxes here.)

This is how they can get away with paying them $2,00/hour in cash. The taxpayers will foot the bill for all of the real costs. The fastest way to put an end to this ongoing nonsense would be arrest, prosecution, and siezure of assets via civil lawsuit of those who employ illegal aliens. The day such action is taken would be the day that millions of illegals would start the journey back home.


80 posted on 07/24/2004 11:12:41 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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