[neverdem]

I'm compiling a ping list for New York State including NYC. Let me know if you want on or off.

[glorgau]

its rate of bills that actually become laws is one of the lowest in the nation.

That is not neccessarily a bad thing.

[neverdem]

PING

[qam1]

Mr. Bruno said the calls for reform were unrealistic. "You know, I always get a kick out of these people," he said.

Well, It's good to know us serfs give Bruno a good laugh

"When I study civics, if I were relating to my civics classes, I would fail as a senator - I'd get an F As a leader - I'd get an F-minus, if there is such a thing. You've got to get in the real world."

Look at the condition of state NY, You have failed as a Senator

[NYFriend]

"I'm compiling a ping list for New York State including NYC. Let me know if you want on or off."

I'd like on please.

[Major Matt Mason]

Too bad this sad sack Bruno is on our side. He sounds extremely arrogant, like a liberal Democrat. New York is truly a sorry state, certainly in the bottom 5 when it comes to the way the state does business. Pataki is a flop, and has been nothing more than an enabler for the likes of Bruno and Silver.

[Gritty]

I'm glad I moved out of NY. The State government is one good reason "why".

[untenured]

I don't understand in what sense the NY Legislature (and, increasingly, the US Congress) qualifies as representative government anymore.

[Zon]

This was originally directed at the federal government and it applies to stae legislatures as well.

Congress has created so many laws that virtually every person is assured of breaking more than just traffic laws. Surely, with all this supposed lawlessness people and society should have long ago run head long into destruction. But it has not.

Instead, people and society have progressively prospered. Doing so despite the federal government -- politicians and bureaucrats -- creating on average, 3,000 new laws and regulations each year which self-serving alphabet-agency bureaucrats implement/utilize to "justify" their usurped power and unearned paychecks. They both proclaim from on high -- with complicit endorsement from the media and academia -- that all those laws are necessary, "must-have" laws to thwart people and society from running headlong into self-destruction.

How is it that people and society have managed to increasingly prosper last year, the year before and decades prior without having each year's 3,000 new laws? But suddenly each year the people need 3,000 new laws? Why will people and society not run headlong into self-destruction this year despite not having next year's 3,000 new laws, or the 3,000 new laws in 2004?

"The difference between a good law and a bad law is that a bad law creates criminals, while a good law identifies them." -- R. Alex Whitlock

Ready-made "criminals" with a vote and stroke of the pen.

[eleni121]

Sign me up for this depressing list.

[eleni121]

The main problem with NYS acc. to NRO and I agree:

...This is a fellow named Sheldon Silver, and he is a conservative’s worst nightmare, being (a) a business-hating socialist by inclination, (b) a trial lawyer by profession, and (c) a parliamentary tactician of genius. His life’s work is to destroy private enterprise in New York State, having first transferred all its assets to the pockets of his colleagues at Weitz & Luxenberg, the firm of ambulance-chasers that keeps him on retainer.

Silver has contemptuously brushed aside Pataki’s vetoes, as has State Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno. (Silver is a Democrat, of course. Bruno and Pataki are both Republicans, or what passes for Republicans in New York State. That is to say, they are a couple of millimeters to the right of Hillary Clinton.) The legislature will get its spending increases, and I and my fellow New Yorkers will get a huge tax hike to finance them.

[The Mayor]

But the input Mr. Bruno and Mr. Silver were referring to comes mainly from the members of their own parties, and it is given in private, behind closed doors. Those party conferences, in fact, are where many of the real decisions are made.

YUP! they do everything behind closed doors, no real debate on issues on the floor of the ass and sinate. Their members are told how to vote and that is how they vote.... Ask any questions, debate any issues, disagree with silver or bruno and your finished, your district gets nothing....

It should be an absolute requirement that a vote can't be called for three days, when is the last time any member ever read the budget, never...

Don't be fooled, these idiots are getting paid, their checks are being issued to them, I have that on good authority....

Dump everyone of them, this year.!!

Last place, we look like a bunch of f'n idiots. I should have stayed in the race for assembly. Or tried for the senate,
now Al Cappola, a former dem, got the Republican endorsement and has lost the conservative because one time for a couple months he was a senator and voted for an abortion bill, so we will be stuckwith Byron Brown till he runs for mayor of buffalo next year.

I'm gonna get sick. Keep me on your list and I will ping you to my posts if you want.

[conservative in nyc]

Albany's like Vegas -- The politicians have something called the Bear Mountain Compact, which basically states that What happens in Albany stays in Albany. Have an extramarital affair with an intern? No big deal! We won't tell your constituents! Your chief of staff rapes an intern? No big deal! We'll try to cover it up until the New York Post comes knocking! What happens in Albany stays in Albany!

Memo to RINO Bruno: The State Senate is NOT like a corporation and you're not the CEO. No corporation can raise its price and force me to buy their services. You can (and have) raise my taxes and give me nothing in return. And if you were a CEO, you'd be so fired for not producing something simple like a budget on time year after year after year.

[neverdem]

PING

[jalisco555]

On, please.