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ATF Inspects Few Licensed Gun Dealers
Yahoo News ^ | 07/19/2004 | CURT ANDERSON

Posted on 07/19/2004 4:18:10 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum

WASHINGTON - Only about 4.5 percent of the nation's federally licensed gun dealers are checked each year to ensure they comply with firearms laws, far below the goals set by the agency that does the exams, the Justice Department (news - web sites) said Monday.

At that rate, it would take the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 22 years to inspect all 104,000 federally licensed gun dealers, said a review by Glenn A. Fine, the Justice Department inspector general. ATF's goal is to check each dealer once every three years.

ATF Director Carl Truscott said the agency's 420 inspectors could never keep pace with that many gun dealers. Because of limited resources, he said, ATF focuses on dealers with a history of violations and on a program of random inspections.

Calling the Justice Department review "constructive criticism," Truscott said in a written response that ATF is "committed to continuing to improve its inspection procedures."

The ATF review is the first since the bureau moved in 2003 from the Treasury Department (news - web sites) to the Justice Department as part of the government reorganization that created the Homeland Security Department.

Gun dealers are supposed to be able to account for all firearms they have bought and sold and to report to the government all sales of multiple weapons as well as all thefts of firearms. The inspections are intended to ensure dealers comply with these and other rules.

ATF also checks the applications of nearly 8,000 new firearms businesses each year. The Justice Department review found ATF often relies solely on a telephone call to do that, rather than a more thorough face-to-face meeting.

The review also found ATF rarely revokes federal firearms licenses — only 54 such revocations occurred in 2002 out of some 1,800 inspections — and it often takes more than a year for the agency to successfully take away a dealer's license.

"A consistent and timely inspection process is essential to identify and respond to any dealers who are violating the law and also to reduce the availability of illegal firearms to criminals," Fine said. "Our review found significant areas in the ATF's inspection program that need improvement."

The review made nine recommendations for changes in the inspection process, development of a tracking system for license revocations and improved use of gun tracing capabilities.

ATF has accepted most of the recommendations and is already implementing several changes, detailed in a June memo from Truscott to the agency's field offices. Among other things, the memo detailed ways inspectors can detect if dealers are conducting illegal weapons trafficking.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; bang; banglist; gundealers; rhodesia; secondamendment; treasurydepartment
Well, it's better to invest time and resources to check federally licensed, legally sanctioned, law abiding firearms dealers than to conduct rigorous surveillance of middle eastern men who conduct dry runs of blowing up airliners in flight, I suppose.
1 posted on 07/19/2004 4:18:11 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: NRA2BFree; 45Auto; glock rocks; joanie-f

BATF bump.


2 posted on 07/19/2004 4:19:08 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: *bang_list

BTTT


3 posted on 07/19/2004 4:20:28 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

too busy busting illegal cig sales


4 posted on 07/19/2004 4:22:27 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece)
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To: Euro-American Scum

Yeah, the reaqson they called the review "constructive" is it saves BATFag jobs.


5 posted on 07/19/2004 4:22:43 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Euro-American Scum

"Only about 4.5 percent of the nation's federally licensed gun dealers are checked each year"

Good. Does it ever occur to the gun grabbers that gun laws on the books already far exceed the governments ability to enforce them? Fortunatley for the 2nd Amendment, law enforcement, so far, concentrates on real violent crime rather than abstract possibilities imagined by agenda driven lunatics.


6 posted on 07/19/2004 4:25:57 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Euro-American Scum

They might be able to inspect more dealers if they didn't spend so much time copying the 4473's. (Yellow sheet with buyer information on it which is *supposed* to stay with the dealer, and is by law not to be kept in any federal facility, except for those from former FFLs who are out of business.)


7 posted on 07/19/2004 4:27:50 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Euro-American Scum
Only about 4.5 percent of the nation's federally licensed gun dealers are checked each year to ensure they comply with firearms laws, far below the goals set by the agency that does the exams, the Justice Department said Monday.

And when they do show up, they exhibit a knowledge of regulations far below that of the average dealer, and either a zeal, or secret orders, to write the dealer up for something, even if they have to make it up.

So9

8 posted on 07/19/2004 4:29:29 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: Euro-American Scum

Very few are checked because crooks don't get licenses! DUMB gubmint regs!

But apparantly somebody at the atf realizes what a waste of time and money this would be.


9 posted on 07/19/2004 4:35:51 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: Servant of the 9

Curious, does that 104k figure include all of the C&R license holders?


10 posted on 07/19/2004 4:43:42 PM PDT by blanknoone (The NAACP --->NAADP National Association for the Advancement of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Spok

ATF = Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms?


COOL! Who is bringing the chips and dips :>)

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11 posted on 07/19/2004 4:51:36 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Euro-American Scum

What percentage of taxpayers are audited each year? Somehow we'll survive this.


12 posted on 07/19/2004 4:52:10 PM PDT by kcar (www.TheUNsucks.com)
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The review made nine recommendations for changes in the inspection process, development of a tracking system for license revocations and improved use of gun tracing capabilities.

See kids, just a short regulatory hop to registration. Now, that didn't hurt a bit, did it?

13 posted on 07/19/2004 5:46:12 PM PDT by glock rocks (peace through superior firepower)
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To: kcar

if we're really talking public safety here--what percentage of restaurants are inspected regularly? It's probable, (though I don't actually have statistics, only a hunch) that more people die or become ill of food poisoning each year than are involved in gun injuries.


14 posted on 07/19/2004 5:54:21 PM PDT by basil (I'm sick of politicking politicians!)
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To: Euro-American Scum

my paperwork was meticulously accurate and reflected the law-abiding citizens I sold to - which just went to show what a useless agency ATF is.


15 posted on 07/19/2004 5:59:33 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: basil

Good point. And also, what percentage of day care centers are inspected? Maybe they should worry about that first since it is "for the kids".


16 posted on 07/19/2004 6:02:26 PM PDT by kcar (www.TheUNsucks.com)
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To: Spok
Fortunatley for the 2nd Amendment, law enforcement, so far, concentrates on real violent crime rather than abstract possibilities imagined by agenda driven lunatics.

You can't possibly be talking about the ATFE here. They spent three years badgering Randy Weaver so he would saw off a couple of shotguns for an informant, and when he finally did it, they had his wife and son murdered. Waco was a show bust that went sour, so they killed as many as they could and destroyed the evidence. The ATF has dozens of cases where otherwise law-abiding gun owners are persecuted, yet it isn't rare that real criminals get away.

17 posted on 07/19/2004 6:19:11 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: blanknoone
I wouldn't think so as C&R licensees aren't 'dealers', we're 'collectors' and 'dealing' is strictly prohibited.
18 posted on 07/20/2004 5:13:08 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: agitator

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Go look on the DOJ web-site under the Violent Crimes Initiative.

It's a program that the ATF is spearheading (the FBI is busy working counter-terrorism issues - like they are supposed to) that takes a three-time felon charged with possession of a firearm and federalizes it putting the thug away for a significant amount of fed time rather than a light hand slap by the state.

I've seen it work.


19 posted on 07/20/2004 6:23:35 AM PDT by military cop (military cop)
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