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Chomping Chomsky: Debunking a Left-wing icon.
National Review Online ^ | July 19, 2004 | Clara Magram

Posted on 07/19/2004 10:36:51 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty

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To: snarkpup
At the university I attended back in the '70s I actually saw the opposite happening.

I should have been more specific.

Within his own discipline, Chomsky's theories are largely discredited, but a disproportionate amount of time and effort are spent studying his work.

But among generic academics and collegians, the vast majority of whom only have a vague idea about linguistics as a science, Chomsky is seen as a great mind from an area so much more intellectually intimidating than their own field, which is usually polisci, lit or "cultural studies."

21 posted on 07/19/2004 11:41:20 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

BUMP for later


22 posted on 07/19/2004 11:45:57 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Chomsky ia one of the most boring speakers I have ever heard. Slow, no emotion - probably why some take him more seriously than they should.

In regards to Afghanistan, Chomsky stated (before the troops arrived) that millions of Afganies would die of starvation. He was wrong, as usual, without a scratch on his reputation by the fawning radicals that follow his every word.


23 posted on 07/19/2004 11:52:16 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: Poincare

He was right when said that the policy of Ford and Carter aiding the Indonesian Moslims slaughtering the East Timorese Christians was an evil policy that would come back to bite us. He was right to point out that the liberal media, the NYT in particular was manipulating the news.

Chomsky used to be a little unpredictable, but in recent years he has just turned "bitchy". E.g., his response to a well reasoned argument of Chris Hitchens was to call him an alcoholic, etc.

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Okay, that's two out of how many? But even those are suspect. I feel bad for the East Timorese, but how did that harm the U.S.? And I suspect his beef with the NY Times was that they were too conservative. So I guess you could file them under Broken Clock Right Twice A Day.


24 posted on 07/19/2004 12:16:53 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (War IS the answer -- when the alternative is even worse...)
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To: Mark in the Old South

"How much education does it take to make a person stupid enough to believe him?

I wouldn't be bragging about a college degree these days."

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God are you ever right! Fr. John Neuhaus likes to say "What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?"


25 posted on 07/19/2004 12:19:44 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (War IS the answer -- when the alternative is even worse...)
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To: talleyman
Makes me think the fruitcake didn't fall too far from the tree...

The laws of physics keep that from happening-- it's a matter of density.

;^) ;^)

26 posted on 07/19/2004 12:20:11 PM PDT by George Smiley (It amazes me how easily John Kerry can straddle both sides of the fence for any given issue.)
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To: torchthemummy
You're darn tooting.

Chomsky's books are for those who didn't find Marx's writing to be boring enough.

27 posted on 07/19/2004 12:22:37 PM PDT by George Smiley (It amazes me how easily John Kerry can straddle both sides of the fence for any given issue.)
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To: davisfh

>> It's hard to believe that some people buy into this character's evil thoughts. Last week (think it was Friday) some 19 year old female named Michaela called Sean Hannity and immediately launched into a diatribe quoting Chomsky as she went. Sad to say, Sean gave her and her father about half an hour of his valuable air time. One of the few things that I criticize Hannity about is his penchant for being overly fair to people with radical ideas.

Absolutely. My wife and I became so angry with Sean's accomodation with that nutcase (and her so-called 'father') we turned the radio off and missed the remainder of the program. In fact, we have done that on several occasions where Sean became too 'diplomatic' with left-wing psychotics.


28 posted on 07/19/2004 12:37:35 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: To Hell With Poverty

---My sister fell for this evil Pied Piper long ago.---

I can remember being mystified by Chumpsky's magic show. For instance: the reason news is propaganda in this country is that we're all following the leader, the reason news isn't propaganda in totalitarian countries is that they're all following the leader.


29 posted on 07/19/2004 12:53:20 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
"My sister fell for this evil Pied Piper long ago

My best friend handed her mind over to this minion of evil--any one want to compare common denominators?

You can't debunk any of their hero's...the extreme left is not wired for truth.

30 posted on 07/19/2004 1:03:24 PM PDT by two23
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To: ICX

---Since the 1960s, when he parroted Vietcong propaganda and ignored mass executions, Chomsky's star has continued to rise.---

Rather like that Kerry fellow!


31 posted on 07/19/2004 1:03:38 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: davisfh

My daughter was taking an english class at our community college and tried to stick it out. The reading list featured Chomsky and the like, with no balance of right wing authors. She finally quit in disgust. Whe has finished two years there and lacks a degree because she dropped this course. Talk about indoctrination, how can an English professor get away with this? His English course was essentially a bullypulpit for his left wing agenda. This is what passes for education in broome county. Thank goodness she is squarely right wing conservative and Republican -- we raised her right.


32 posted on 07/19/2004 1:15:30 PM PDT by tioga (Flush the johns in '04!)
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To: Mark in the Old South
Every time Hannity ask a point of reference question such as do you support the war effort to remove the Nazis they would squeal in shocked disbelief "excuse me?"

Or they would repeat Sean's question back to him verbatim, with an "excuse me?" tone at the end. Particularly the daughter, she clearly had never had anyone challenge her core beliefs before - all she could say to Sean in response was to mockingly say "Wow! Isn't it interesting that I'm 19 years old and I'm making you mad!"

The knucklehead father reminded me of John Walker's father - remember the "American Taliban"? His father said that he'd let his son explore ideas on his own - everything is relative, don-cha know. No clear-cut right vs. wrong. Look what happened to the kid.

33 posted on 07/19/2004 1:16:30 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Kerry Lied. Soldiers Died.)
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To: two23

"You can't debunk any of their hero's...the extreme left is not wired for truth."

Boy you got that right. What I see as a consistent trait between my sister and her lefty-loosey comrades is that they want a soapbox to stand on, something to make them look important and apart from the rest of us, and this intellectual blowhard gives them just what they think will prove their own higher intelligence by agreeing with him.


34 posted on 07/19/2004 1:32:21 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty
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To: Mark in the Old South
I wouldn't be bragging about a college degree these days.

"Back where I come from we have Universities, seats of learning where men go to become great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts, and with no more brains than you. But they do have one thing you haven't got: a diploma. Therefore, by virtue of the power invested in me by the Universitatas Committiatum E Pluribus Unum, I hereby confer unto you the honorary degree of Th.D....that's, uh, Doctor of Thinkology".

How can I ever thank you enough?"

"Well you can't."--The Wizard of Oz

35 posted on 07/19/2004 1:32:52 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: ICX
This clown is big with my Swedish cousins. They think he is big medicine. He is probably the intellectual godfather of the "America kills people" cult the left has become.

When the worker's paradise collapsed the left lost all legitmacy in terms of offering hope to mankind. The only thing they have is hatred of America (the strongest and purest manifestation of Western Civilization) and mass graves. So they have done what lefties always do when they are caught red-handed, they say "well everybody does it" or "both sides are equally guilty".

"The Soviets killed millions but whites stole the land from the Native Americans." Now we all are supposed to be ashamed of ourselves and hang our head low. What they won't do is put the story in correct context. At that time, if a population could take land from another it did. That didn't go out of fashion until America became the baddest dude on the block. If we hadn't taken the land from the Indians, the Japanese or the Russians or the Mexicans or the Canadians or the French or the Britsh... you get my drift. Then we might have had a hostile power on our western borders.

The whole story just doesn't fit into the "America is evil" propaganda, so they conveniently leave it out.

36 posted on 07/19/2004 2:05:47 PM PDT by Check_Your_Premises (We have to win the war at home before we can win ANY war abroad!)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
"--and this intellectual blowhard gives them just what they think will prove their own higher intelligence by agreeing with him."

Yup--Chomsky is on the losing side of the age-old battle of Good vs Evil, and he's taking as many as he can with him.

37 posted on 07/19/2004 2:17:36 PM PDT by two23
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To: To Hell With Poverty
Somone can tell me if I'm wrong, but I had a teacher back in college who liked Chomsky but made some vague statement that he disagreed with him writing a intro or foreward to some book that had holocaust denial or blamed the jews for the holocaust.

Any info out there?

38 posted on 07/19/2004 3:13:04 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: secretagent

bttt


39 posted on 07/19/2004 3:15:50 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Zhangliqun
But even those are suspect. I feel bad for the East Timorese, but how did that harm the U.S.? And I suspect his beef with the NY Times was that they were too conservative. So I guess you could file them under Broken Clock Right Twice A Day.

Chomsky thinks everyone everywhere is to conservative. Nader is more of a moderate to him.

One of the things people don't get about Chomsky is that he really is a warmonger who talks the pacifist talk.

If he had his way, we'd be invading every country on gods green earth and imposing socialist/communist systems, he would still blast us as being evil, but would (after stripping the military bare of course) involve us in every hell hole conflict on earth for "humanitarian" reasons.

40 posted on 07/19/2004 3:17:26 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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