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Martha's 'little people' ... it's a good thing
The Delaware County Times ^ | July 19, 2004 | Gil Spencer

Posted on 07/19/2004 7:38:23 AM PDT by MadIvan

I sat down with Martha Stewart yesterday evening to interview her about the interview she gave to Barbara Walters for ABC's ''20/20,'' which aired last night.

She wore the same dark gray business suit she wore for Barbara. I wore the same cream-colored suit and dark blouse that Barbara wore during her sit down. And a blond wig too.

Me: Martha, you told... may I call you Martha?

MS: No.

Me: Ms. Stewart, you told Barbara Walters that you hope that charges of which you were convicted, stock manipulation and lying to investigators, would be overturned on appeal.

MS: Yes.

Me: You said that the charges against you were, and I quote: "a direct result of something that was a personal matter. Not a company matter... I didn't go and cheat the little people. I just didn't do that. We're all little people."

MS: Yeah, so?

Me: Do you really think that we're all "little people?"

MS: Yes.

Me: That you are "little people"?

MS: Me? No. I just realized that when I referred to the little people it sounded awful. So I just threw in the "we're all little people" line to make it sound like I didn't consider myself better than anybody else.

Me: That's what I thought.

MS: For instance, I'm much better than you.

Me: I know you are. But do you think you're better than Nelson Mandela?

MS: I'm a better cook than Nelson. Have you ever tried one of his crème brulee? They're not very good.

Me: But you think the possibility of your being locked up is comparable to Nelson Mandela's 20-year incarceration?

MS: I just used him as an example of people who have gone to prison and survived it quite well.

Me: You told Ms. Walters that if it comes to prison "I could do it. I'm a really good camper. I can sleep on the ground... If it is looming ahead of me, I'm going to face it, and take it and do it and get it over with."

MS: Right, just like Nelson Mandela did.

Me: Why do you mention Nelson Mandela, instead of say, your friend Sam Waksal, the guy whose company, ImClone, got you in all this trouble?

MS: Because I don't like him anymore. I like and admire Nelson a lot more. And I believe my situation is more like his than like Sam's.

Me: OK. You said you believe the feds came after you because, and I quote, "I was on television 21 times a week with my wonderful, award-winning, Emmy winning, how-to television program that was such a nice alternative to other things that are on television. This program teaches. This program informs. This program promotes crafts, and artisans, and artists, and paper makers and gardeners, and hydrangeas... How can you malign something like that?"

MS: Right. So?

Me: What's a hydrangea?

MS: It's a flower. A purple flower.

Me: And just who was it that was maligning these purple flowers?

MS: It wasn't the flowers that were being maligned but me, moi. I was being maligned because I promoted good living and radiated class. And the little people, not the little people in homes all over America who love me and my fabulous magazine and wonderful show, but the little people who write jokes for Jay Leno, David Letterman, and "Saturday Night Live," thought it would be funny to make fun of me.

Me: Did you see the "SNL" where they had you putting dog poop on your ex-husband's door step and setting it on fire?

MS: No.

Me: It was funny.

MS: Quite.

Me: You told Barbara...

MS: I'm sure she'd prefer your referring to her as Ms. Walters.

Me: You told Ms. Walters that you resented the media constantly harping on your appearance and wardrobe, especially about your pocketbook.

MS: That was a Hermes Birkin handbag.

Me: Yes. The estimated value was $6,000. You told Ms. Walters that you bought it 12 or 14 years ago and it didn't cost $6,000 back then.

MS: That's right.

Me: How much did it cost.

MS: $11,000.

Me: Must be a nice purse.

MS: It's a fabulous purse.

Me: Well, I just want to tell you that I read a lot about your case in the Wall Street Journal and elsewhere and from everything I've read, it sounds to me like you were railroaded on a bunch of trumped up charges.

MS: I was.

Me: That's what I said.

MS: Well, its nice to have one of the little people understand that.

Me: Hey, just cause we're little, doesn't mean we can't read or think.

MS: Yes, well...

Me: But you're no Nelson Mandela.

MS: We're done here.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: betterprisons; jailbird; marthastewart
Seems to be an accurate portrait. ;)

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 07/19/2004 7:38:27 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: EggsAckley; dinasour; AngloSaxon; Dont Mention the War; KangarooJacqui; Happygal; lainde; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/19/2004 7:39:16 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Do they serve Lucky Charms in prison?
She can meet with the 'little people' . Begosh, and begorrah! ;-)


3 posted on 07/19/2004 7:44:30 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: MadIvan

When I think about Martha, the saying "what goes around, comes around" comes to mind.


4 posted on 07/19/2004 7:48:58 AM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: MadIvan
It can be said that the world is a mirror, the true nature of your soul will reflect back. In Martha's case the view is the same as Hitlery, that of an arrogant, holier than thou elitist.
5 posted on 07/19/2004 7:57:19 AM PDT by 50 Cal (Next time you think nobody cares if you exist just don't pay the IRS!)
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To: MadIvan

Yeah, pretty soon, Martha will ne sharing a cell with "Large Marge"! I don't reckon SHE's one of the "little people".


6 posted on 07/19/2004 8:13:14 AM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: MadIvan

Yeah, pretty soon, Martha will ne sharing a cell with "Large Marge"! I don't reckon SHE's one of the "little people".


7 posted on 07/19/2004 8:13:38 AM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: MadIvan
I agree she is no nelson mandela

nelson mandela = black racist Marxist

martha stewart = white liberal elitist
8 posted on 07/19/2004 8:15:27 AM PDT by sticker
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To: MadIvan
"Seems to be an accurate portrait."

Except for the part about her being convicted for stock manipulation.

9 posted on 07/19/2004 8:20:45 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: MadIvan

I saw this interview; Martha has some MAJOR anger management issues, not to mention denial.

I loved it when she said "It could happen to anybody."

Well, not to people who obey the laws, it couldn't.


10 posted on 07/19/2004 8:23:43 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: MadIvan
Ms. Stewart, you told Barbara Walters that you hope that charges of which you were convicted, stock manipulation and lying to investigators

She was not convicted of stock manipulation, only of lying to investigators, otherwise she'd have gotten somewhat more than 5 months in the slammer + 5 months "house arrest" + two years probation.

11 posted on 07/19/2004 8:27:50 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: MadIvan

"Vertically Challenged" Bump


12 posted on 07/19/2004 8:31:45 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: MadIvan
Sounds like Martha didn't learn a thing from Leona Helmsley's "little people" comment.


13 posted on 07/19/2004 8:40:59 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Happygal; MadIvan
Do they serve Lucky Charms in prison? She can meet with the 'little people' . Begosh, and begorrah! ;-)

I believe leprechauns aren't "little people," they are "wee folk."

14 posted on 07/19/2004 8:45:08 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man." -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah

Hey! Yer talkin' to one! ;0)


15 posted on 07/19/2004 8:47:05 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: Howlin
I saw this interview; Martha has some MAJOR anger management issues, not to mention denial.

So this is real??

OMG ... what an arrogant *itch

16 posted on 07/19/2004 8:48:01 AM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: sticker

black racist Marxist
white liberal elitist

Except the only difference in these two is the black and white.


17 posted on 07/19/2004 8:48:19 AM PDT by kenth
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To: Mo1

Oh, this is a parody, no doubt.

But I did see the real interview; she's a total ---well, you know what they say about her......LOL.


18 posted on 07/19/2004 8:51:34 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: MadIvan

"Did you see the "SNL" where they had you putting dog poop on your ex-husband's door step and setting it on fire?"

Brings back memories of my halloween nights durring the 40s!

As for MS, they should have tried and convicted her of stock manipulation and put her away for a good many years.


19 posted on 07/19/2004 8:53:50 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Howlin
Oh, this is a parody, no doubt.

*L* .. Thanks for clearing that up ..

I missed the interview .. but a lot of people around my way are commenting on her little speech on the Court House steps

Arrogant is the nicest thing they said about it

20 posted on 07/19/2004 8:58:20 AM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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