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A hero, a domestic diva and a total loss of perspective
The Times ^ | July 19, 2004 | Abigail Rayner

Posted on 07/18/2004 10:32:50 PM PDT by MadIvan

Martha Stewart likens herself to Nelson Mandela


Martha Stewart: "There's many other good people that have gone to prison" Photo: Louis Lanzano/AP
SHE compared herself to Nelson Mandela and claimed she was the victim of a witch hunt.

But all Martha Stewart’s public outpourings have achieved is to provide a road map for other indicted executives on how not to present themselves to the judiciary, senior lawyers said yesterday.

The multimillionaire television star hired Herb Hoelter, a leading defence lawyer to advise her on her presentation and demeanour as well as to negotiate community service.

But in an interview with Barbara Walters on ABC television on Friday, she compared herself to Mr Mandela, the anti-apartheid campaigner who was imprisoned in South Africa for 27 years. She referred to the Nobel Prize winner in response to a question about her fortitude for prison life.

“If it is looming ahead of me, I’m going to have to face it, and take it and do it and get it over with,” she said, adding “There’s many other good people that have gone to prison. Look at Nelson Mandela.”

Such musings have not impressed other members of the New York bar who expressed astonishment at the tactlessness of Ms Stewart, who is known as the “Domestic Diva” in America for her cookery and interior design shows, books and magazines.

“Everything that occurred at trial is due to her own arrogance and hubris,” said Jake Zamansky, a New York securities lawyer. “She was the one who asked her investigators ‘Are you gentlemen done? I have a company to run.’ This is when she was giving her so-called false statements to the government. That irritates people, it makes them think she looks down on them.”

Michael Bachner, a New York securities lawyer, said that Ms Stewart’s lack of remorse post-sentencing contrasted sharply with her demeanour in front of Judge Miriam Cedarbaum, who heard the case.

“If Judge Cedarbaum was aware of the lack of remorse that she showed after sentencing, compared with the ostensible contrition she showed inside the court before she was sentenced, she would have given her a much greater sentence. Judges like to feel that the defendant has learned a lesson,” Mr Bachner said.

“Nelson Mandela was sentenced for nothing more than being black. She is not being incarcerated because she is a woman but because she has committed a serious crime.”

Ms Stewart was convicted of repeatedly lying to the government over a sale of shares in December 2001.

After being sentenced on Friday to five months in prison and five months of home detention , Ms Stewart issued a public statement referring to her crime as a “small personal matter” that had been “blown out of all proportion”. Mr Bachner said: “It seems strange that you have to teach someone who holds themselves up as the height of etiquette, how to behave in court and in public but you see it all the time.

“Apparently (Martha Stewart) needed to learn how to behave when she’s not in Connecticut.”

Lawyers agreed that in the end, Ms Stewart and her legal team had little to do with Ms Cedarbaum’s ultimate decision. The judge may have been influenced by a move in the US towards changing the sentencing guidelines that will allow judges to make more decisions based on circumstances surrounding a crime.

The fact that she ran a company, employed people and had no previous convictions was taken into account.

Ms Stewart’s conduct after sentencing will not technically affect her chances of success at appeal. The court will exclusively examine the errors said to have been made at the trial.

Nonetheless, lawyers say, the courts are human too. Her demeanour will have been noted and her lawyers are probably not that happy about it.

Ultimately, her attitude following her sentence speaks volumes.

“This kind of arrogance is consistent of the person that brought her to trial in the first place. Martha Stewart doesn’t seem to have learned a thing,” said Mr Bachner.

STEWART

MANDELA



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I only take issue with calling Mandela a martyr. He's still alive. Obviously Ms. Stewart really irritated this reporter however.

Regards, Ivan


I'm warning Ms. Stewart not to get silly again!

1 posted on 07/18/2004 10:32:51 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: agrace; lightingguy; EggsAckley; dinasour; AngloSaxon; Dont Mention the War; KangarooJacqui; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/18/2004 10:33:15 PM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: MadIvan

MS should suck it up and serve her time.


3 posted on 07/18/2004 10:40:58 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: MadIvan
You'd best take issue,with many more of the things written about Nelson,besides his" martyrdom.

1) He was NOT arrested and jailed because he is a black! HE WAS AND IS A STINKING COMMIE,WHO WAS A TERRORIST.He was caught,tried,convicted,and jailed because he blew things up and killed people.

2) His crusade re AIDS is worthless;no more than a shakedown a la Jesse Jackson.

3) Under his reign,crime ran rampant and criminals(and I'm talking about ALL manner of crimes...not the least being black on black!) got away with murder;literally.Though,truth to tell,things are worse now,under Mbeki.

4) After only one year of his presidency,even blacks were fed up with him.

There's lots more,but at least the author of this article managed to get it right about Martha.

4 posted on 07/18/2004 10:54:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
3) Under his reign,crime ran rampant and criminals(and I'm talking about ALL manner of crimes...not the least being black on black!) got away with murder;literally.Though,truth to tell,things are worse now,under Mbeki.

you reap what you sow. the racially based inequality and oppression doesnt just dissapear. reaching a balance after such imbalance doesnt occur without a lot of pain. look at iraq... that country still suffers under the ghost of saddam, his effect on the people will last much longer than he will. in south africa, theres still a lot of oain to go through.
5 posted on 07/18/2004 11:28:33 PM PDT by sweneop
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To: MadIvan
Nelson Mandela was NOT imprisioned because he is black!! He was the president of the ANC (African National Congress) a communist organization that advocated the violent overthrou of the SA government.

The Politics of Terrorism

Dellums also said that his proudest moment as representative was when he escorted a Communist and convicted terrorist to the House floor to receive a fawning ovation from the U.S. Congress. In the Sixties police caught this terrorist plotting a violent overthrow of government while in possession of a large cache of weapons and enough explosives to kill thousands of people. This terrorist is Nelson Mandela, who is now the President of South Africa.

While Mandela was in prison, his wife Winnie was busy advocating the "necklacing" of other blacks who were disloyal, the practice of forcing a tire filled with gasoline over an unfortunate person and setting it alight. As the victims burned, their families were challenged by the mob to pull the burning tire off. "With our boxes of matches and our necklaces we will liberate this country," Winnie shouted before television cameras. According to sources in South Africa, hundreds died in this manner. International TV crews captured footage of a necklacing where the mob smashed the victim's head with large stones.

Of course, bombing, necklacing, torture, and murder are acceptable if your politics are in order. At most you may become president and at least you will stay out of jail and live comfortably. This is a major plank in the radical manifesto. The only crimes are political crimes. You may commit perjury, molest children, cheat, rob, steal and murder without guilt so long as you are a good radical. The desecration of the rule of law by the black government in South Africa has produced a surge in violent crime that has brought that nation to the verge of anarchy and ruin. The government reserves its moral outrage for the remaining symbols of the former white establishment, not the murderers on the streets.

South Africa's criminal justice system is on the verge of collapse. Over two percent of the total population is behind bars--more than twice the number imprisoned under white rule. South Africa has a murder rate that is seven times greater than that of the United States, with rapes, carjackings and home invasions epidemic. Black on white crime is epidemic. Thirty-four thousand prisoners escaped from jail over the past four years, and many accused are never convicted due to police ineptitude, corruption, or inadequate resources.[19] President Mandela asserts that reports of an increase of crime under his administration is nothing more than propaganda put out by by political opponents. This is another plank in the radical manifesto--"Don't confuse me with the facts."

Nelson Mandela was a leader in a terrorist conspiracy in the Sixties. His organization, the African National Congress (ANC), carried out a campaign of bombings and assassinations in a campaign to overthrow the government. The ANC killed many innocent civilians, as well as several of their own people suspected of disloyalty. The government offered to release Mandela from prison early if he would renounce terrorist acts, but he refused. In May of 1997, the ANC publicly apologized for killing civilians, claiming they did not intend to do it. Forty top ANC officials have applied for amnesty.[20]

Mandela's terrorist past was no secret to Vice President Al Gore and First Lady Hillary Clinton when they attended his presidential inauguration in 1994. Mandela held up his clenched fist, a symbol of the iron rule of Communism. Al and Hillary applauded enthusiastically. Killing civilians doesn't matter as long as you promote the radical agenda. The only crimes are political crimes.


6 posted on 07/18/2004 11:28:38 PM PDT by jellybean
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To: sweneop

It's supposed to disappear instantaneously without any wrinkles. Don't you know this already!/sarcasm


7 posted on 07/18/2004 11:39:52 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: sweneop
No..........the crime is so terrible in South Africa,because Mandela began the deconstruction of the police force,which is now almost nonexistent,as far as doing anything other than picking up the same prostitutes,on the same corners,night after night and turning a blind eye to ALL other crimes.

Since the crime is mostly BLACK ON BLACK and ANC thugs on BALCKS,perhaps YOU,with your infinite wisdom,can explain to me and the rest of FR,just HOW ON EARTH,the BLACKS are reaping what they sowed under Apartheid.And FWIW,blacks were SAFER under Apartheid,than they are now and freeer.Tiny black babies were NOT being RAPED then,but they are now and the malefactors get away with it.

8 posted on 07/18/2004 11:42:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jellybean

Thanks for posting the unvarnished facts! They needed to be said by more people,than just me.


9 posted on 07/18/2004 11:44:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

His ex wife should be in jail.


10 posted on 07/18/2004 11:44:52 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

At the least.Actually,she should have gotten the death penalty,but I don't think they have one.


11 posted on 07/18/2004 11:46:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Essence Magazine did a tribute to Winnie Mandela. I wrote them a scathing letter that the 'editoress' in chief did NOT do her homework before bestowing such an honor to Winnie Mandela a murderer of teenage boys. Wonder why I didn't get a response back *LOL*


12 posted on 07/18/2004 11:48:56 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

Good for you! But they don't want to hear the facts,I guess.


13 posted on 07/19/2004 12:04:55 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Stewart is just making excuses. She needs to shut up and go to jail.


14 posted on 07/19/2004 12:14:41 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg
For all her ability to make money,this woman is very short on brain power,when it comes to common sense.

OTOH, you have the sense to see what she really needs to do.

15 posted on 07/19/2004 12:16:46 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: MadIvan
My wish:
“Everything that occurred at trial is due to her own arrogance and hubris,” said Jake Zamansky, a New York securities lawyer.

“She was the one who asked her investigators ‘Are you gentlemen done? I have a country to run.’ This is when she was giving her so-called false statements to the government. That irritates people, it makes them think she looks down on them.”

Except he's not talking about Martha Stewart, but rather The Hildabeaste.
16 posted on 07/19/2004 12:30:34 AM PDT by upchuck (You do know that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct, don't you?)
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To: MadIvan

There's violence on the television,
And anthrax in the mail,
But things can't be all that bad
When Martha Stewart goes to jail...

(With apologies to Australian band This Is Serious Mum)


17 posted on 07/19/2004 12:37:07 AM PDT by KangarooJacqui (http://www.RightGoths.com/ - Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. Wear black and be proud!)
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To: MadIvan

Yeah, I thought you had to be dead to be a martyr.

If not, I think I might petition the Pope now for my own canonization! ;-)


18 posted on 07/19/2004 12:43:48 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: upchuck
"Except he's not talking about Martha Stewart, but rather The Hildabeaste."

The virtues of truth and humility, are seldom seen in those people who aspire to success and hail from the 'Left' - so to speak.

OTOH, they do share many attributes; arrogance; narcissism; are driven to power; are controlling; dominating personalities; and they are convinced that are exempt from the 'rules of life'.

It is a 'Liberal' thing.

Also known as. . .the sociopathic personality.

19 posted on 07/19/2004 12:45:56 AM PDT by cricket (The starting point for Liberals is the lie. . .)
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To: cricket; nopardons; jellybean

bttt to some insightful, informed, intelligent posters!


20 posted on 07/19/2004 4:50:30 AM PDT by Guenevere
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