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Prop 200: Cutting Through the Rhetoric and Getting to Facts About Protect Arizona Now Initiative
Federation for American Immigration Reform ^ | 12 July 2004 | Staff

Posted on 07/13/2004 3:21:07 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder

WASHINGTON, July 12 /PRNewswire/ -- With more than 190,000 signatures, it seems likely that the Protect Arizona Now initiative, Proposition 200, will appear on the November ballot in Arizona. Since the petitions were turned into the Arizona Secretary of State on July 1, opponents of the ballot measure have launched a campaign of disinformation, aimed at distorting the language and objectives of Proposition 200, and impugning the motives of the people behind the initiative. Large-scale illegal immigration is an important issue in Arizona and much of the rest of the nation, and it is crucial that the facts about Proposition 200 be reported accurately to the voters. What Proposition 200 says and does not say, what it would do and would not do, must be presented accurately so that voters can make an informed choice when they go to the polls on November 2.

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), the leading immigration policy organization in the country, has prepared an analysis of what is contained in Proposition 200, and answers to key questions about the initiative and those who are behind it.

"We fully expect that opponents of the initiative will attempt to distort and mislead Arizona voters about Proposition 200," said Dan Stein, executive director of FAIR. "Therefore, it is important for the media and the public to have access to the facts about an initiative that has local and national implications."

FAIR staff attorney, Michael Hethmon, is available to discuss and provide additional information about Proposition 200. He can be reached at (202) 328-7004 or at attorney@fairus.org.

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SOME BASIC QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT PROPOSITION 200

Q1. Who is behind Proposition 200 (the Protect Arizona Now initiative)?

A1. Proposition 200 is a ballot initiative conceived and directed by residents of Arizona in 2003. The diverse sponsors include Arizona elected officials, grassroots civic leaders, concerned businessmen, and environmental activists. Because the issue is of national significance, FAIR and other immigration reform organizations independently supported signature-gathering efforts to ensure that the initiative appears on the 2004 ballot. Opponents of Proposition 200 similarly receive support from groups and individuals who advocate on behalf of illegal immigrants.

Q2. Why is Proposition 200 necessary?

A2. No one can deny that Arizona is experiencing a mass influx of illegal aliens seeking to unlawfully settle in Arizona. The net costs of providing benefits and services to the estimated 500,000 illegal aliens living in Arizona now exceeds $1 billion annually, or an average of $700 a year per household. Moreover, the numbers of illegal aliens and the cost of providing benefits and services are increasing rapidly.

Government agencies in Arizona currently have no uniform laws controlling when or how to verify the identity of an applicant for benefits, or whether that person is an ineligible illegal alien. Section 6.A.3 prohibits Arizona government agencies from accepting insecure identification cards for verification of public benefits eligibility. To protect the public against fraud and corruption in public services, the issuing agency must have verified the immigration status of the cardholder.

Q3. Why is it necessary to create new voter registration laws and require presentation of identification at polling places?

A3. The Arizona voter registration and election system was not designed to screen out non-citizens seeking to unlawfully register or vote. With hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in Arizona, even a small incidence of alien voting corrupts the democratic process. Sections 3 and 4 of the initiative require new voters to document their U.S. citizenship when they register to vote. Section 5 requires voters to present a photo ID at the polling place on Election Day. These are simple but fair measures to protect the integrity of the voter rolls and the ballot box.

Q4. Isn't illegal immigration a federal matter?

A4. Immigration is a federal matter and should be enforced by the federal government. Under federal law, illegal aliens are prohibited from receiving many state and local public benefits. It is the responsibility of state and local governments to ensure that these laws are complied with.

Congress has given states the authority to enact uniform verification procedures under state law. Proposition 200 sets verification procedures for state and local public benefits that are consistent with the procedures that Arizona already follows for federally-funded benefits. Section 6.A.4 of the initiative requires state and local government employees who discover a violation of federal immigration law to make a written report to federal immigration authorities. The right of civil servants to report violations is already protected by federal law.

Proposition 200 does not regulate legal immigration or restrict the rights of lawful immigrants and foreign visitors in any way.

Q5. When voters in California tried to limit benefits for illegal aliens in 1994, a federal judge struck down Proposition 187. Why is Arizona Proposition 200 any different?

A5. California's Proposition 187 was never really tested in the courts. After a single federal district judge blocked Proposition 187, state officials did not vigorously defend the decision of the electorate. Ultimately, former California Governor Gray Davis refused to appeal that ruling, ignoring his duty to the 59 percent of the electorate that voted in favor of the measure.

Proposition 200 has been carefully worded to conform to existing federal laws and policies. Proposition 200 applies provisions of immigration and welfare reform legislation enacted by Congress and signed by President Clinton in 1996, and respects the different but complementary duties and powers of our state and federal governments.

Q6. What benefits or services will Proposition 200 deny to illegal aliens?

A6. Proposition 200 will not change the number or kinds of benefits that are already denied to illegal aliens. Section 6.A of the initiative requires Arizona government agencies to "verify the identity" and "verify that each applicant is eligible" for "state and local benefits that are not federally mandated," and to provide all state and local government employees with "information to verify the immigration status of any applicant for those benefits and assist the employee in obtaining that information from federal immigration authorities." The procedures for verification of eligibility must comply with federal regulations, commonly known as the SAVE (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlement) system. See 8 U.S.C. 1642(a)(3). Arizona has used the SAVE system to verify eligibility for federally-funded benefit programs since 1999.

Q7. Proposition 200 will help identify illegal aliens who are unlawfully receiving public benefits. Exactly what benefits and services are currently denied to illegal aliens?

A7. Federal law already defines the types of state or local benefits for which verification of lawful immigration status is required: "(A) any grant, contract, loan, professional license, or commercial license provided by an agency of a State or local government or by appropriated funds of a State or local government; and (B) any retirement, welfare, health, disability, public or assisted housing, postsecondary education, food assistance, unemployment benefit, or any other similar benefit for which payments or assistance are provided to an individual, household, or family eligibility unit by an agency of a State or local government or by appropriated funds of a State or local government." See 8 U.S.C. 1621(c).

In order to comply with federal law, Proposition 200 requires that an applicant for such benefits provide documents showing that he or she is a bona fide U.S. citizen or legally admitted alien.

Q8. Will illegal aliens receive any public benefits if the voters approve Proposition 200?

A8. By federal law, illegal aliens in Arizona cannot be denied access to benefits and programs that are specifically exempted from verification. These programs include, but are not limited to, K-12 education, emergency health care, immunization programs, in-kind disaster relief, soup kitchens and other emergency food assistance, federal school lunch and breakfast programs, and those public services that are necessary to protect life or safety.

Q9. Won't Proposition 200 lead to discrimination based on appearance, ethnicity or national origin?

A9. Proposition 200 actually adds to federal and state civil rights policies that prohibit against discrimination or disparate treatment of individuals based on factors of race, religion, gender, or national origin. Eligibility for state benefits and services will be determined solely by verification of an applicant's identity or immigration and nationality documents.

Proposition 200 creates additional protections against discrimination not found in other federal or state law. Section 6.C of the initiative gives Arizona residents, including advocates for illegal aliens, the right to sue any government agency that discriminates in the verification process in state court. Section 6.C. requires that the Arizona state courts give these suits preference over other pending cases.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; fraud; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; reforms; votefraud
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I snipped some verbage out of the middle as it was better stated in the question & answer section.
1 posted on 07/13/2004 3:21:09 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; Happy2BMe; Spiff; SandRat; B4Ranch; Joe Hadenuf; Missouri; NewRomeTacitus; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/13/2004 3:24:08 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

bttt


3 posted on 07/13/2004 3:25:33 PM PDT by gipper81
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Its basically a citizenship and green card verification measure. But when you hear from the Left, they'll say its a mean-spirited effort to discriminate against Latinos. They'll never mention illegal immigration though - which is bankrupting Arizona and effecting the quality of life for the state's residents.


4 posted on 07/13/2004 3:26:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Click to see other threads related to illegal aliens in America
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JB, I don't know if you ping the whole list when you ping, so I'm pinging them as well.

One of the stories that prompted this response from FAIR is found today in The Arizona Republic at AZCentral.com. We're not allowed to excerpt from them, they're a Gannet publication. So?

Here's the title of the article, that's allowed:

And here's the link, that too is allowed:


This opens in a new window.

And, although we're not allowed to excerpt, I don't see anything that keeps me from paraphrasing.

The article mentions an illegal named Ramírez who is married to a legal resident alien. In one paragraph she insists PAN won't affect her because she has never taken a handout. In the next sentence, she tells us "...except the medical care she received when three of her four small children were born..." Right. No handout there.

There's more, but I don't want to upset the good folks at Gannet Publishing.

5 posted on 07/13/2004 3:39:45 PM PDT by HiJinx (Be sure to catch the John & John Show on station WDNC!!!)
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To: HiJinx

Still rebuilding my ping list...that's why you, gubamyster, and Happy2BMe are usually at the front of the ping.


6 posted on 07/13/2004 3:42:15 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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Oh, ok, I see.

Goldstategop said that the Left 'will' portray this as a "mean-spirited effort to discriminate against Latinos." The link indicates that they've already started.


7 posted on 07/13/2004 3:47:41 PM PDT by HiJinx (Be sure to catch the John & John Show on station WDNC!!!)
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To: HiJinx

Collecting signatures in the Phoenix area got down right violent at times. It's going to be an interesting campaign.


8 posted on 07/13/2004 3:51:02 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: HiJinx

Why the hell should anyone care what the Left is portraying about any aspects of illegal immigration? Since the media in general contains a large % of these folks it's obvious that their lack of unbiased coverage on illegal immigration over the last 10-15 years proves they've been complicit in aiding and abetting this idiocy.


9 posted on 07/13/2004 3:56:16 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Add me please.


10 posted on 07/13/2004 4:00:32 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: HiJinx; JackelopeBreeder

bump


11 posted on 07/13/2004 4:00:32 PM PDT by kstewskis (BUSH-GIBSON 2004)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

How do we send home the aliens that are here already that most likely the Feds will find a way to make permanent citizens?


I don't buy this discrimination bullchit, America is not required, and better not ever be required, to make other countries peoples problems American peoples problem. Letting them walk right on to American soil makes them all our problems, they need assistance $$$ till they become citizens, they pro-create skewing America's natural birth/death rate. Then we have to bulid more power plants, roads, cut more trees and destroy more land to accomadate them.

It's a lossing battle for all with no benefits.




12 posted on 07/13/2004 4:02:54 PM PDT by The Bandit
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To: HiJinx
Bump for later study.
Might be a precedent......
13 posted on 07/13/2004 4:05:34 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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I would love for our Prop 200 to be a model for other border states...no...for all states, since they all suffer the cost of illegals.


14 posted on 07/13/2004 4:15:45 PM PDT by HiJinx (Be sure to catch the John & John Show on station WDNC!!!)
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To: adam_az

Done.


15 posted on 07/13/2004 4:23:25 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: HiJinx
I would love for our Prop 200 to be a model for other border states...no...for all states, since they all suffer the cost of illegals.

That is what the opposition fears. If it flies, it becomes the blueprint for the other states. Both major parties will try to squash it flat. The Arizona State GOP leadership and our entire Congressional delegation are vehemently against it.

16 posted on 07/13/2004 4:31:03 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

BTTT for later.


17 posted on 07/13/2004 5:01:37 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Putting in the clause specifically guaranteeing nondiscrimination jerked the fangs out of that rattler. The crapweasels are wailing in Tennessee over the license certificate law and are taking it to the Federal Court. They're also upset that we don't accept matricular consulars alone as proof of identification and that local LEO jurisdictions can decide for themselves what constitutes that proof.

People are afraid to leave their homes because they might be asked for ID! The horror!

These disincentives must stand!

18 posted on 07/13/2004 5:25:46 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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Not too long ago a couple of our State legislators introduced a bill that would have levied fines and yanked business licenses from companies that knowingly employed illegal aliens.

The rest of the legislature (from both parties) ran away shrieking in horror.


19 posted on 07/13/2004 5:45:20 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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The rest of the legislature (from both parties) ran away shrieking in horror.

That is so damn sad!!!!

20 posted on 07/13/2004 7:17:12 PM PDT by Eaker (R.I.P Phudd 28-Jun-04)
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