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Social Conservatives Want More of Their Own to Speak at the G.O.P. Convention
NY Times ^ | July 12, 2004 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 07/12/2004 12:05:47 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Hank Rearden
But not with my support

Who are you trying to kid, he never had it.

21 posted on 07/12/2004 12:59:50 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms of a wealth creating society.)
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To: exnavy

thanks exnavy!


22 posted on 07/12/2004 1:04:54 AM PDT by unaffliliated
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To: goldstategop
So how come John F*ckin' can't get a RINO as his keynote speaker?

They got the Gipper's son, Ronald P. Reagan, to talk about stem cell research, although I think he may be registered on the dark side. A better analogy would be a DINO, but who could that be, Zel Miller, at both conventions?

23 posted on 07/12/2004 1:05:20 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: GeronL

RINO's have won, lets go home

The New York Times sure knows how stupid the right is. They know the right thinks thatt the rights 35 percent of the voters can cast 51 percent of the votes.

So when th Bush campaign tries to get from 35 percent of the vote to 51 by appealing to the center, the New York times knows the right is stupid and used that knowledge to good advantage of the left. The Times knows they can drive the stupid right away from the polls.

It is a technique the left has used to advantage for decades.

I am convinced that the leftist rank an file are a lot brighter than the right. The left knew that the Clinton's let on to steal the right's right to get votes in 92 and 96. The left is bright. They knew Clinton was just doing what it took to get and keep the left in power. The right ain't that smart as your post proves.

You may not think you don't fall for leftist media attempts to fool the stupid right wing voters into taking a walk.... But the NEW YORK TIMES knows better.


24 posted on 07/12/2004 1:06:26 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
No one is taking advice from the NY Times. I disbelieve everything they print.

and I WAS kidding about going home.

25 posted on 07/12/2004 1:09:38 AM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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To: neverdem
The heck with the elections, let's appoint a King! Applications now being accepted!
26 posted on 07/12/2004 1:10:14 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: exnavy

in regards to "moving away from its base", we all know democrats and republicans do things for the sake of political expediency in election years. i think this is just a way to make sure undecided and moderate voters don't get turned off by concentration on issues that don't grab them. this isn't a matter of platform, they are still behind their base who will always vote for them, but a matter of marketing.


27 posted on 07/12/2004 1:14:34 AM PDT by unaffliliated
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To: GeronL; Common Tator
and I WAS kidding about going home

Then don't put your "kidding" in big bold letters and leave a (/sarcasm) tag, next time.

JMO Geron, you were serious about your reply #2, but backtracked when you realized you were being played like a cheap violin by the NYT.

28 posted on 07/12/2004 1:17:44 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms of a wealth creating society.)
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To: Tall_Texan
Reagan stiff armed the social conservatives. He was good at paying lip service to them but that was it.

Religious social conservatives scare the hell out of many many moderate Republicans because if they become the predominant voice in the party, the Republicans are doomed to lose nationally.

29 posted on 07/12/2004 1:21:00 AM PDT by zarf
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To: Dane

I was discussing this stuff in another thread. I ain't happy with the GOP, but we don't have anyone else than Bush right now.


30 posted on 07/12/2004 1:23:44 AM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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To: exnavy

Oh come on...it is a well accepted principle that during the primaries you solidify your base and during the general election you move back to the middle...That's how you get elected fer crying our loud. Have we so quickly forgotten what it was like with Clinton in office? Have we forgotten so quickly that we are at WAR? Paul Weyrich has more than a few problems of his own so lets not even go there...


31 posted on 07/12/2004 1:25:42 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: zarf
Religious social conservatives scare the hell out of many many moderate Republicans because if they become the predominant voice in the party, the Republicans are doomed to lose nationally.

I think "religious social conservatives" have been the predominant voice in the GOP, and have made up the party's base, for quite some time. It's one of the better reasons to vote Republican. The day the "moderate" liberal Republicans have a stronger voice is the day the party will be worth writing off, at least temporarily.

32 posted on 07/12/2004 1:30:53 AM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: unaffliliated
First, you must understand that a wide majority of American households are "social conservative". Therefore, to pander to "moderate" voters is folly.

Secondly, the Democrat party is extremely left wing, and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with republicans. If republicans continue the leftward motion of the party, they will lose their base of conservative followers.

Leftist ideas and liberal "I'm a constant victom" mentality is ruining this fine country. What made U.S. great is old fashioned hard work, and basic Christian values, and that is all we need to sustain us.

33 posted on 07/12/2004 1:32:17 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: k2blader
The day the "moderate" liberal Republicans have a stronger voice is the day the party will be worth writing off, at least temporarily

Well let's take a look at the recent signing by Pres. Bush of the partial borth abortion ban.

You can bet that Gore or Kerry would not have signed one.

34 posted on 07/12/2004 1:35:25 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms of a wealth creating society.)
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To: exnavy

See reply #34.


35 posted on 07/12/2004 1:36:10 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms of a wealth creating society.)
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To: neverdem

The choice is clear. Big tent or no tent.


36 posted on 07/12/2004 1:36:31 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: unaffliliated; jnarcus

see post #32 as well.


37 posted on 07/12/2004 1:37:13 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: Dane

You are correct.


38 posted on 07/12/2004 1:38:27 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: neverdem
as well as Education Secretary Rod Paige,

A person who has harsh words for teacher unions isn't exactly a mushy middle moderate to me.

39 posted on 07/12/2004 1:39:04 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms of a wealth creating society.)
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To: jnarcus

It is high time that politico's in D.C. stopped shifting from conservative, to moderate, to liberal and back. We need rock solid, conservative leaders who do not waiver, or sell out on principle. In short we need "Statesman" types or we are going to lose this war we are in.


40 posted on 07/12/2004 1:45:41 AM PDT by exnavy
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