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To: Steel Wolf
There is nothing wrong with sleep dep or stress positions. Those are some of the most gentle physical interrogation methods around, and have been considered perfectly legal interrogator SOP for the last 50 years.

I'm confused. If a prisoner objects to sleep deprivation and "stress positions", and refuses to cooperate, resisting passively (simply slumping rather than standing as directed, closing his eyes), what measures are taken against him? Is pain inflicted upon the prisoner, or not?

39 posted on 07/03/2004 3:16:06 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: VeritatisSplendor

"...is pain inflicted upon the prisoner or not?"

Good heavens no! The prisoner knows his cause is lost. He is thankful to allah that he is still alive. The prisoner immediately tells the interrogators all they want to know, he co-operates, he is grateful for the three meals a day, the showers and the accommodation. And as long as he is asked ever so nicely ( not humiliated ) he will do all he can to assist the Coalition effort to establish democracy in Iraq. The prisoner knows Saddam was a mass murderer, a criminal. He wouldn't RESIST! Not even passively...

Pain you say? Would tickling with a feather be OK?


40 posted on 07/03/2004 5:10:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
I'm confused. If a prisoner objects to sleep deprivation and "stress positions", and refuses to cooperate, resisting passively (simply slumping rather than standing as directed, closing his eyes), what measures are taken against him? Is pain inflicted upon the prisoner, or not?

Discomfort is the name of the game. When you are a prisoner, you have no control over anything. Food, water, sleep, work, warm, cold, clean, dirty, your surroundings, entertainment, contact with others, etc. Every aspect of your existance is the subject of someone elses whim.

Try going to sleep in your cell when the guards are blasting a tape of tortured sounded moaning and screeching. You can slump over all you like, but you won't get to sleep until your body is exhausted.

When you're a prisoner, you do what you're told, or they go for your comforts. Sitting at your keyboard, it's hard to have an appreciation of having no comforts, but the world revolves around them.

Why get your daily 'shower' in freezing water instead of warm? Why settle for two and a half hours of sleep when you could get five? Why eat rice when you could get some dessert? Why sleep on the floor when you could get a cot? Why scrub septic tanks when I could watch a movie?

Why not just sit in the stress position and answer a few questions?

The idea is to make people cooperate. Without any ability to influence people's comfort, anyone can hold out against interrogation. If the only tools you have to work with is asking the question again, then the person is free to ignore you until you get tired of asking.

It's not about beating people, it's about wearing them down mentally and physically by making them uncomfortable. Without the ability to make people uncomfortable, they simply won't break, and you won't get any worthwhile intel. This is what is going on now that our interrogators have been defanged.

41 posted on 07/03/2004 9:39:56 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Iran almost has nuclear weapons. They will get them unless we stop them.)
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