There were 4 main glacial epochs where the continental glacier covered much of North America - the Nebraskan, Kansan, Illinoisan and Wisconsin. Guess they (we) are still in the ice age. Damn!
Lando 
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Hmmmm I can find plenty of experts scientific evidence and common sense reasons to support these claims.
If guns are not an effective way to protect against criminals maybe its time we disarm these law enforcement officers who are working to prevent citizens from having the same rights they have.
I'm in Wisconsin and I just pretend that the Constitution still means what it says....so far, so good.
Let's also not forget that the "antis" have blocked the implementation of the CCW permits in the major metropolitan areas of Missouri.
Mark
The fact that Wisconsin seems concerned about the same thing should not be surprising. They've developed a thin patina of "Liberal" outlook only in recent years. Otherwise, they are fully Progressive (that is Commie), and would prefer the Negro people to move back down South (or be lynched).
"Experts" are notorious for saying whatever their personal ideology requires them to say and "scientific evidence" can also be used to prove that grass is red and bees can't fly. That leaves experience and common sense, and common sense indicates that criminals prefer helpless victims, while our experience after one year of "shall issue" shows that crimes are stopped by armed citizens, at least once in a while.
The "experts" may say that these incidents are statistically insignificant and scientifically unimportant, but I can tell you that they were not unimportant to the people who were not victims, thanks to their concealed handguns.
There were 4 main glacial epochs where the continental glacier covered much of North America - the Nebraskan, Kansan, Illinoisan and Wisconsin. Guess they (we) are still in the ice age. Damn!
Lando
Wisconsin lacks CCW solely because of Gov. Jim "craps" Doyle (D-Potawatomi Casino). Without his veto and subsequent betrayal, under pressure from Craps, by one of the Rat sponsors of the bill, we would have shall issue CCW.
I kind of doubt that. Anyway, it should be interesting to see how many of the anti-CCW folks lose their elections this fall.
Hopefully, Wisconsin will have enough votes to override the RAT governor next year.
The voters better remember what that SOB Shermen did to them and send his butt packing this fall.
BTTT
bang -ping! bang!
Is it any easier for a 'normal person' to carry in Massachusetts than in Illinois? It seems to me the distinction between 'no issue' and 'may issue' isn't really significant. In Illinois, a person can get a carry permit if they become a bona fide licensed private detective. I'm not aware of any political connections being necessary to do that, although the expense and bother would mean few people would do so. What about in Massachusetts?