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Libertarian Party Press Release on Farenheit 911
Libertarian Party Announcements | June 28, 2004 | Libertarian Party

Posted on 06/29/2004 6:01:46 AM PDT by Undertow

NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY

2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100

Washington DC 20037

World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org

For release: June 28, 2004

For additional information:

George Getz, Communications Director

Phone: (202) 333-0008

Attack on 'Fahrenheit 911' documentary shows 'Constitution is on fire,' Libertarian says

WASHINGTON, DC -- The attack on Michael Moore's new documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11," shows that free speech has come under an unprecedented assault in America, thanks to the campaign finance law passed by Congress last year, says Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik.

"The Constitution is on fire -- a fire that was set when Democrats and Republicans passed their so-called campaign finance reform law," says Badnarik, who was nominated by the party on May 30. "The attempt to gag Michael Moore demonstrates that McCain-Feingold was just an excuse to outlaw political criticism."

The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is considering whether advertising for Moore's controversial new documentary, which is sharply critical of President Bush, can be banned as "electioneering communications." Under McCain-Feingold, corporate-paid radio or TV ads that identify a federal candidate are illegal to broadcast within 30 days of a primary or 60 days of a general election.

Since Moore has publicly stated that his goal is to help defeat Bush, Democrats and Republicans are waging partisan warfare over "Fahrenheit 9/11."

But Badnarik -- who teaches classes on the Constitution -- says a much larger issue is at stake: Every American's freedom of speech.

"The truth is that Democrats and Republicans committed a bipartisan crime against the First Amendment when they passed the McCain-Feingold law," according to Badnarik. "This law allows politicians to determine what their critics can say, when they can say it and how much they can spend in the process -- which is exactly what's not supposed to happen in a free country."

Noting that the First Amendment clearly states that 'Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom speech,' Badnarik asked: "What part of the words 'no law' doesn't the government understand? The First Amendment doesn't contain exceptions for advertisements that might offend the president or cost him his job -- and it certainly doesn't authorize federal movie police.

"Empowering a government agency to ban movie ads might be expected in the former Soviet Union, Cuba, China, or Iraq -- but not in the United States. Every American should stand up for Michael Moore's right to advertise 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' regardless of how they feel about George Bush."


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1 posted on 06/29/2004 6:01:47 AM PDT by Undertow
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To: Undertow

You can't gag that fat bloviator.


2 posted on 06/29/2004 6:02:42 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Undertow

Honestly, I don't see the connection between CFR and conservatives protesting F911


3 posted on 06/29/2004 6:04:13 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: Undertow
"But Badnarik -- who teaches classes on the Constitution "

He is not a teacher at any school. He doesn't even have a law degree. Maybe he stands on a box in a park "teaches" on the Constitution.

4 posted on 06/29/2004 6:06:30 AM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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To: Undertow

I guess the Libertarians would demand silence from protesters of the film.

Hypocrites. They should stick to doing dope.


5 posted on 06/29/2004 6:06:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
He's not commenting on protesting Fatass-911.

He's talking about the attempt to use the CFR law to prevent the movie from being advertised on radio and television because it is political.

6 posted on 06/29/2004 6:07:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (If life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Warm & sour lemonade because life didn't give ice & sugar.)
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To: Undertow
I wonder how far a film from the right, with lies and fabrications about Kerry, would fly?

Years ago I visited a L convention. I left after they spent the first 4 hours discussing whether or not lying was really a violation of contract. I'm not sure why anyone would want to be a part of a party that has no moral tether or immovable principles. It is clearly the party of relativism - where "right and just" is all in the eye of the beholder.

7 posted on 06/29/2004 6:08:25 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I think there's some kind of thing about the FEC (as mentioned) pulling the plug on it if they judge it's just campaigning for the election.

I do think the "reform" bill is pretty stupid. But then, if it's law, there is a question whether Moore is really channeling money from the DNC types.


8 posted on 06/29/2004 6:09:06 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (I was there! I passed Reagan's casket 6/10 3:40 PM!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Doesn't our free speech allow us to speak out against F911? Did I miss something here? Does freedom of speech have no responsibility or consequence? If Michael Fatboy Moore speaks, do I have to listen and worse yet agree?


9 posted on 06/29/2004 6:11:41 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I will never give up. So don't ask me.)
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To: KarlInOhio
He's talking about the attempt to use the CFR law to prevent the movie from being advertised on radio and television because it is political.

True. And a shining example of the old adage "the way to get rid of a bad law is to enforce it."

The funny thing is, I'd be a Libertarian if I could figure out how to become a virgin.

10 posted on 06/29/2004 6:12:00 AM PDT by Grut
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To: anniegetyourgun
Ah, you walked out before the delegates spent their next 4 hours arguing whether flatuence constitutes fraud or force or both.
11 posted on 06/29/2004 6:13:51 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Undertow
Actually there is a good online interview by David Bossie who brought about the lawsuit in the WP.

David Bossie: Thanks to washingtonpost.com for having me today. First off, we know Michael Moore's intention, his ultimate goal, in the creation of his so-called movie, is to defeat President George W. Bush for reelection. Secondly, we also know that Michael Moore as a director, never lets the facts get in the way of a good story. He doesn't exactly have a track record of credibility.

We filed a complaint yesterday with the Federal Election Commission claiming that the advertisements for the film are "electioneering communications" as defined in "McCain-Feingold" and upheld by the Supreme Court.

These advertisements use the name, likeness, image or photo of a federal candidate for office. That can be President Bush or John Kerry.

All we want is Michael Moore to follow the law. McCain-Feingold limits my free speech as well as Michael Moore's

Let's be clear. 1. They are not a violation today, but will be on July 31st. 2. He is using corporate money to pay for his ads, which is illegal, and 3. He is using foreign money to pay for these ads, which is illegal....

LINK

12 posted on 06/29/2004 6:14:16 AM PDT by Dane
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To: anniegetyourgun

I think largely they are on the right track.

But there does seem to be an over-anxiety about things that are just plain bad. The protesting about drugs, porno, etc, they do is kind of silly. After all, local gov's at least have been banning/penalizing these types of things since the days of the Founders. And who am I to question the Founders?

I had a friend who was a Libertarian (I am definitely of that bent except as indicated) and who said, regarding porn, he preferred to read the 1st Amend for what it says in plain words - after I told him what the true intention was (him supposedly worrying about what the Founders wanted). OTOH, he tells others who question the "plain words" of the 2nd Amend that the INTENTION was for this and that.

I think it boiled down to what he wanted to not feel guilty about. ;-) Guns and also porn.


13 posted on 06/29/2004 6:14:21 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (I was there! I passed Reagan's casket 6/10 3:40 PM!)
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To: Undertow
"The attempt to gag Michael Moore....."

As what's left of the (very little) credibility of the Libertarian party goes up in smoke, like a big fat spliff....

14 posted on 06/29/2004 6:16:27 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: KarlInOhio
He's not commenting on protesting Fatass-911.

He's talking about the attempt to use the CFR law to prevent the movie from being advertised on radio and television because it is political.

Don't expect the knee-jerkers to understand that.

As soon as they see the word "Libertarian", they just start bloviating.

15 posted on 06/29/2004 6:18:30 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Psalm 73
So you would approve of the Democrats doing the same thing to a Republican movie maker? You do realize that the language being bandied about to shut Moore up could just as easily apply to conservative talk radio?

If the left uses this to shut down Hannity, Rush, and Ingram... I'm gonna spit on your shoes.

You people can be remarkably short sighted. Badnarik is right...

16 posted on 06/29/2004 6:21:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

There are those who are protesting it under the guise of its violation of CFR.

I take Hitch's stance on the whole thing - Who Cares - It's bullshit.


17 posted on 06/29/2004 6:22:23 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: Undertow

The Libertarian Party is nothing but a bunch of left-wingers who want their dope. And I'm a semi-libertarian.


18 posted on 06/29/2004 6:23:15 AM PDT by Nataku X (Bush waited six minutes to react. Clinton waited eight years to react.)
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To: Undertow

I have some small-L libertarian beliefs, and I don't normally agree with the big-L Libertarians, but in this case they're right. McCain-Feingold is an unconstitutional abomination, a huge abridgement of the First Amendment.

However, I do wonder, would the Ell Pee be screaming this loud if the Rats were trying to use McCain-Feingold to block a movie slamming JF'inK? Some of the LP's recent rhetoric makes me wonder if they aren't succumbing to some of the Rats' "Bush = Hitler and must be stopped at all costs" insanity.

}:-)4


19 posted on 06/29/2004 6:24:22 AM PDT by Moose4 (Yes, it's just an excuse for me to post more pictures of my cats. Deal with it.)
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To: Undertow
I am, by no means, a fan of Libertarians.

However, in this case, Badnarik is right.

Moore's crockumentary is a piece of garbage. But it is Moore's opinion (distorted as it is). It is criticism of government - which is exactly what the First Amendment was designed to protect.

Under the extra-constitutional CFR, certain aspects of Moore's film are illegal. CFR is in direct conflict with the First Amendment.

I would prefer to see Moore sued for libel, but perhaps this will test CFR and get CFR off the books.
20 posted on 06/29/2004 6:24:30 AM PDT by kidd
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