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Internet Attack Exploits Microsoft Software Flaws ( Internet Explorer vulnerable )
Reuters ^
| Fri Jun 25, 2004 08:25 PM ET
| Duncan Martell
Posted on 06/25/2004 10:41:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What browser are you running?Firefox on both the desktop (98 machine) and the laptop (XP machine).
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posted on
06/26/2004 12:06:14 AM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
(John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
To: BigSkyFreeper
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posted on
06/26/2004 12:15:55 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Same complaints about Norton, plus it was always taking over the whole machine it seemed like.Exactly! When you uninstall it, it wouldn't uninstall everything properly and would give you a list of "cannot find *.exe file" error screens at bootup.
I laughed one time when I was fixing these errors on a computer network at the local insurance agent, and installed Mcafee and that installation package came up with an error box that said "we've detected stray files from Norton Anti-Virus exists on your computer, would you like us to get rid of these files?" and I clicked yes, and McAfee cleaned up Norton and successfully installed itself.
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posted on
06/26/2004 12:23:29 AM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
(John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Everyone should keep in mind that these vulnerabilities
are designed in, so that Gates and his Hollywood buddies
can spy on you. Over time, these situations can
be exploited by others.
To: BigSkyFreeper
ROFL!
Symantec just picked up Powerquest so now I may need to look for a replacement for Partition Magic.
Although disks have really gotten inexpensive so not such a big deal now.
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posted on
06/26/2004 12:44:27 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Although disks have really gotten inexpensive so not such a big deal now.True. I'm going to get a second hard drive and the one I have now will be used as a backup drive.
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posted on
06/26/2004 12:46:39 AM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
(John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
To: greasepaint
Well this little virus thingie may just get me to move over to Linux, since the browser is the big issue and Firefox seems to be working well for most of what I do, and it will run on Linux.
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posted on
06/26/2004 12:47:21 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: BigSkyFreeper
I have a bunch of storage.
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posted on
06/26/2004 12:49:03 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Okily, dokily, neighbor." (Ned Flanders voice off)
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
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posted on
06/26/2004 1:24:19 AM PDT
by
hummingbird
("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; TexasTransplant; ShadowAce; martin_fierro; Pit1; delapaz; dyed_in_the_wool; ...
On Friday SEVERAL security experts were recommending people
abandon MS Internet Explorer, and most recommended Mozilla/Firefox. ...security officials are still piecing together how Microsoft's Internet Information Services (IIS) servers -- widely used to host popular Internet sites -- became infected, passing the virus-like code onto other Web sites and Internet Explorer browsers.
"Fully patched Explorer users are attacked at will, silently," Dunham said, adding that the effort appears to originate from a Russian group of "hackers for hire" who have a history of developing Trojans or malicious code that can steal credit card data and similar information that would later be sold for profit.
Dunham [with the Internet Storm Center, added] that "Internet Explorer users should consider an alternative browser, at least temporarily.
Mysterious New Threat Secretly Plagues Internet
Good advice from the experts...
And even if you are using Compuserve, AOL, or Earthlink etc, from some CD that was sent to you,
it MIGHT actually be Internet Explorer with a different 'face' added to it.
I recommend users
do NOT install OPERA as an alternative to IE at this time, since that appears to be
a SPINOFF from IE. Note a sampling of the HTTP headers from Opera users all say they are compatible with various releases of MSIE (Internet Explorer), so they therefore are ALSO most likely corruptible by these Russian worms/trojans.
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) Opera 7.11
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) Opera 7.23
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) Opera 7.50
(compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows XP) Opera 6.05
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) Opera 7.20
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) Opera 7.22
...here's AOL 9.0. Note it IS Internet Explorer, renamed and customized
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
...by comparison, spinoffs from Netscape do NOT say "compatible; MSIE" in them...
(Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01"
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8"
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040316"
Most people using Compuserve, AOL, or Earthlink etc, or ANYTHING that came from your ISP can still LOG-IN with THAT software, THEN MINIMIZE it, and then use Firefox.
To: TexasTransplant; martin_fierro
from another thread...
We need a list from the Tech types, which browser will I be able to keep the longest, before the next mass infection, and while we are at it... email (simple please) I am changing both tomorrow, to what I don't know.
Well its hard to beat Firefox for features or security. I believe Microsoft refused to cooperate with the standards committee that developed javascript, so MS came out instead, with its own lousy javascript version that had lots of extra hooks and bugs and vulnerabilaties.
For all of us home users who are stuck with the Redmond operating system, I'd recommend trying to get ALL other software from SOMEWHERE ELSE for safety, NOT from microsoft.
I like the site nonags.com for very good open sourced software. These people for the most part ONLY recommend, test, and rank free software that does NOT NAG you for money to upgrade to a 'better version'.
If you need anything more commercial than that, I'd say the non-MS versions of software will be as good or better, and less virus-prone, than MS versions.
martin_fierro also had a good list of software for PC protection (except for the part about Opera).
Whichever email system you use.. BE SURE to turn OFF the reading of mail in HTML MODE. Read all messages in 'TEXT ONLY' mode or else you can be infecting your system JUST by reading a message (even without opening attachments).
Another reason to not allow HTML mode in your email reader, is that built-in images in the message (sometimes they're even invisible) will confirm to spammers that your email address is valid.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
To: FL_engineer
Thanks, but I use Apple products only. Safari is my browser. Microsoft is a dirty word in this house.
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posted on
06/26/2004 9:58:18 AM PDT
by
mass55th
To: beckett
Thanks, beckett...I am a computer dunce and don't know how to look for this invasion, but I do have Norton on auto update...Norton has never found a virus when it scans my files.
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posted on
06/26/2004 10:01:03 AM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
To: FL_engineer
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posted on
06/26/2004 10:05:29 AM PDT
by
firewalk
To: FL_engineer
Well I don't what was causing problems on my computer this week
But I did want to beat the heck out of it with a baseball bat
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posted on
06/26/2004 10:11:24 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(50 States baby .. I want all 50 States come November !)
To: Mitchell
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posted on
06/26/2004 10:11:57 AM PDT
by
Allan
To: MEG33; Brad's Gramma
The move to Firefox is a very easy move, suggest you both look at it.
Shadowace had some good tips on the thread he started , now in the blogger chat area.
Link to it above here somewhere.
I am doing this right now under Firefox.
There are a few things to learn, but not many , use the right click on the mouse a bit more.
Firefox doesn't have the mail capability so is much smaller than IE.
If you are a big user of mail, then Mozilla has that.
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posted on
06/26/2004 10:13:55 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: MEG33; Brad's Gramma
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posted on
06/26/2004 10:16:07 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: FL_engineer
Thanks. Is there any way to tell if my computer has the virus? I ran a virus scan yesterday and it appeared that there was no problem(yet.)
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