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C-word flak leads Hoffman to tears
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 06/16/2004 | John C. Ensslin

Posted on 06/17/2004 2:47:41 AM PDT by Hawk44

University of Colorado President Betsy Hoffman broke down and cried this week while explaining her remark about how a pejorative word referring to the female anatomy could be used as a term of endearment.

Hoffman had been talking Tuesday morning to editors and reporters at the Durango Herald.

An editor asked her about a newspaper story on her use of the C-word while she was giving testimony in a deposition.

Her testimony stemmed from a question asked by one of the lawyers in a federal lawsuit filed by three women who alleged they were sexually assaulted by CU football players and recruits in December 2001.

One of the lawyers was questioning Hoffman about a claim by former CU place- kicker Katie Hnida, who said her football teammates referred to her by the C-word.

Hoffman told the lawyer that the term was a swear word. But when asked if there was any possible polite context for the word, Hoffman testified that the word could be used as a "term of endearment."

The CU president, a medieval scholar, told the Herald that she was thinking back to the 14th century poet Geoffrey Chaucer.

According to the newspaper, Hoffman said, "I was immediately sorry." She said that the lawyer "kept pushing me. He was very nasty."

"I knew as soon as I said it that it would come out in the papers," Hoffman told the Herald. "I should have said, 'Read Chaucer's The Miller's Tale. "

About that time, Hoffman began to cry.

"She just pretty much broke down in tears," said Bryan New-some, the Herald's day city editor. "It was kind of somber. Seeing somebody cry is never pleasant."

Hoffman stepped outside the room for a moment, regained her composure and resumed the interview, which had been intended to be about public financing of higher education in Colorado.

After later reading the depositions, Newsome said he could understand why Hoffman was upset.

"But at the time, I was a little surprised to see a college president break down in tears."

The flap over the deposition drew a full range of reaction from CU regents and one of the commissioners who recently investigated CU's athletic department.

Commissioner Jacqueline St. Joan said she felt Hoffman "put her foot in her mouth," with her remarks on the C-word.

"I see it as a combination of siege mentality and academic myopia about the real world," St. Joan said.

Regent Susan Kirk, however, said she felt it was inappropriate to take out of context Hoffman's brief reply within a deposition.

"I know the president would never disparage women," Kirk said.

Regent Pat Hayes said she thought the controversy over the C-word was "almost a non- story story."

Regent Jim Martin said he understood the context of Hoffman's remarks and the reference to Chaucer but added that he found Hoffman's reply "totally inappropriate."

"That is a vulgar word. She could have just admitted that," Martin said. "To dig in her heels only further tarnishes the reputation of this university."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Colorado
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CU is half of the c-word and a laughing stock across America.
1 posted on 06/17/2004 2:47:42 AM PDT by Hawk44
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To: Hawk44
I'm sure that Ms. Hoffman can find some post-modeernist, critical theory feminist cholars that she has helped put into tenure to back her up.

Isn't "nigga" a term of endearment? Sure it is, ask any post-modernist hip hop scholar.

2 posted on 06/17/2004 2:54:38 AM PDT by Benrand
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To: Hawk44

OH!.... I thought it was "Conservative"


3 posted on 06/17/2004 3:13:47 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Hawk44

What a "C" Doc..


4 posted on 06/17/2004 3:19:01 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Hawk44
and this person is a college President?

I am continually amazed.

5 posted on 06/17/2004 3:20:53 AM PDT by Khurkris (Will the wind ever remember the names it has blown in the past, It whispers no this will be the last)
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To: Hawk44

Where it should lead her is to the unemployment line. I would not send my daughter to a school run by someone who could utter such offensive nonsense. Chaucer, indeed.


6 posted on 06/17/2004 3:21:09 AM PDT by Paul_B (Rest in peace, President Reagan. And thank you for all you've done.)
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To: Hawk44

"University of Colorado President Betsy Hoffman broke down and cried this week"

Nobody feels any pain
Tonight as I stand inside the rain
Ev'rybody knows
That Baby's got new clothes
But lately I see her ribbons and her bows
Have fallen from her curls.
She takes just like a woman, yes, she does
She makes love just like a woman, yes, she does
And she aches just like a woman
But she breaks just like a little girl.


7 posted on 06/17/2004 3:27:59 AM PDT by Max Combined
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To: Hawk44

Maybe it could be the school mascot. It would be easier to lead around the football field than a buffalo.


8 posted on 06/17/2004 3:29:37 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: Hawk44
"That is a vulgar word. She could have just admitted that," Martin said. "To dig in her heels only further tarnishes the reputation of this university."

That's not possible.

9 posted on 06/17/2004 3:34:33 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Hawk44
For whatever it's worth, Mrs. B and I agreed, after some lewd discussion, that while a**hole and its variants might possibly be used as an endearment between people who are intimate, that dreaded "C" word was simply too harsh.

And yes, I never cease to be astounded at the foolishness of people who are supposedly better-educated and more enlightened than myself.

10 posted on 06/17/2004 3:38:05 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Paul_B

How can a little word like cute cause a college president to cry?


11 posted on 06/17/2004 3:41:51 AM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: Hawk44

This made me think of the OJ trial. Now it's a leftist's turn to try to walk the tight rope between the courtroom and reality.


12 posted on 06/17/2004 3:44:57 AM PDT by aardvark1 (You can't have everything...where would you put it? --Steven Wright)
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To: Hawk44
CU is half of the c-word and a laughing stock across America. --

Colorado University Not Thrilled over the Hoffman remarks.

13 posted on 06/17/2004 3:50:19 AM PDT by beyond the sea (anyone who says he can see through women is missing alot)
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To: Max Combined
"C-word flak leads Hoffman to tears" --

Roberta Flack on the c-word flak. ;-)

Boy, can she sing!

14 posted on 06/17/2004 3:53:26 AM PDT by beyond the sea (anyone who says he can see through women is missing alot)
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To: Hawk44

There's no crying at Unversity of Colorado!


15 posted on 06/17/2004 3:53:51 AM PDT by Allegra (This dog bite me)
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To: Hawk44

When coach Barnett was being raked over the coals for some remarks taken out of context, Hoffman was loud and proud with her attacks.

Now, however, when scrutiny is turned upon her, the faucets are turned on and we're to feel sympathy.

Give me a break!


16 posted on 06/17/2004 3:57:04 AM PDT by wunderkind54
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To: Hawk44
"I knew as soon as I said it that it would come out in the papers," Hoffman told the Herald. "I should have said, 'Read Chaucer's The Miller's Tale. "

Yeah, right. I'm sure that's what the football player was referencing in calling Ms. Hnida that term.

17 posted on 06/17/2004 4:01:25 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

Gee, you'd think NOW would have something to say about this.


18 posted on 06/17/2004 4:05:00 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: backhoe
...that dreaded "C" word was simply too harsh.

Simply too harsh?? That dreaded "C" word is downright thermonuclear!!

19 posted on 06/17/2004 4:20:13 AM PDT by Bob
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To: NYCVirago

Not surprising at all. From CYA BS to Ph.D BS. And a crybaby to boot!


20 posted on 06/17/2004 4:22:23 AM PDT by ishabibble
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