Posted on 06/11/2004 4:01:12 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:10 p.m. EDT Nader Seeking Support of … Conservatives? Independent presidential contender Ralph Nader is looking to bag a whole new constituency come November: conservatives.
He's not kidding. The leftist-greenie-consumer envirocrat tells Pat Buchanan in the June 21 issue of Buchanan's "American Conservative" magazine he thinks conservatives who are being "taken for granted by corporate Republicans" could find comfort in a Nader ticket.
He admits conservatives won't "change their minds on certain issues that we disagree on." But, he says, there are "issues where we have common positions" — so much so that conservatives could punch a ballot for Nader this fall.
"Here are the issues. One, conservatives are furious with the Bush regime because of the fantastic deficits as far as the eye can see. That was a betrayal of Bush's positions, and it was a reversal of what Bush found when he came to Washington," Nader says.
He adds that conservatives are also upset because:
welfare kings because that undermines market competition and is a wasted use of their taxes."
There are two other things conservatives don't like about the Bush administration, Nader added.
One is the "No Child Left Behind" education legislation, which he called a "stupidly conceived" piece of federal regulation.
Two, conservatives are upset that Bush, a "born-again Christian," hasn't done anything about "corporate pornography and violence directed at children," as well as "separating children from their parents," which undermines parental authority.
"If you add all of those up, you should have a conservative rebellion against the giant corporation in the White House masquerading as a human being named George W. Bush," Nader said, comparing the administration's Republican values to an abandonment of true progressive principles by "corporate Democrats."
"I noticed this a long time ago," Nader told Buchanan. "I once said to Bill Bennett, 'Would you agree that corporatism is on a collision course with conservative values?' and he said, ‘Yes.’"
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I think Nader's list is about 80% correct.
But this list only represents about 10% of his platform.
The rest of his platform consists of 100% unadulterated kook thinking, full-on communism, and general stupidity.
We should do for Nader what the Dems did for McCain (R-Media), which is prop him up and get him on as many ballots as possible.
R-Media-- lol!
You must remember that nader had in his platform for 2000, a plan in which he would downsize our military. He wanted to reshape it into a small force to protect the "Homeland" only. We did not need a large Navy or Airforce, as we had won the "Cold War", and the world had changed. We NO LONGER had an enemy that required us to maintain such a huge military.
This guy is just another leftist commie appeaser! He is just more upfront about what and who he really is...
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I agree. Last weekend, several scraggly-looking kids were standing at a street corner in my city with Nader petitions. I saw the State Election Commission logo. I walked right by them, but they didn't even ask me to sign their petition. I had to ask them! I guess they thought I looked too "normal" to sign a Nader petition or something.
He is a traditionalist socialist. He is anticonsumerist in the same way that Vance Packard or Thorstein Veblen were. Both were highly moralistic in their critique of consumerism.
He claims that he is against instusive government, but supports massive increases in the size of the welfare and regulatory state. That sounds like intrusive government to me.
I doubt that Nader would even draw paleocon votes with this schtik.
Also, I think that Pat and Taki have gone off the deep end. I looked at their magazine a few months ago, and in it were pictures of protests against FTAA and the Iraq War, critiques of "Zionism" and "American hegemony", and articles about how pharmaceutically-enhanced, blissed-out soccer moms in SUVs are running over the downwardly mobile American working class.
I had to check the cover to make sure I hadn't acidentally picked up Z Magazine. I realized that if it were Z, then there would be the obligatory fawning interview of Chomsky. Maybe Buchanan could devote an issue to him?
"You must remember that nader had in his platform for 2000, a plan in which he would downsize our military. He wanted to reshape it into a small force to protect the "Homeland" only. We did not need a large Navy or Airforce, as we had won the "Cold War", and the world had changed. We NO LONGER had an enemy that required us to maintain such a huge military."
On this subject, the Nadar platform is essentially the same as the Libertarian Platform. You know the Libertarians who are always tell us that they are the "real conservatives".
Of course he's seeking the support of conservatives. He doesn't want to be blamed for the defeat of a Democrat again. He'd rather be blamed for the defeat of a Republican.
Why can't we have a Reagan/Goldwater ticket? Man, I could sure get excited about that....
ralphie's so cute!
Unfortunately, the head-up-the-hinder voters will always be with us.
Nader is a legend in his own mind.
He is an opportunist of the worst sort, always looking to flim-flam dollars out of some corporate hide or to fleece whatever misguided, idealistic idiots will buy his peculiar brand of snake oil.
I remember when Republicans talked like that about China. Not now.
I had no idea Ralph gave a rat's ass about anything in that paragraph. Learn something new every day.
No worries, Mate, the Conservatives have their own third-party candidate.
The guy's a paranoid kook.
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