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Top Quark Measurements Give ‘God Particle’ New Lease on Life
University of Rochester ^ | 09 June 2004 | Staff

Posted on 06/10/2004 4:00:48 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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The search for the Higgs continues ...
1 posted on 06/10/2004 4:00:49 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..

Science list ping (a subset of the evolution list). FReepmail me to be added or dropped.


2 posted on 06/10/2004 4:01:50 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (God bless Ronald Reagan!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Oct 18, 2012

Hag Hogs Higgs

President Hillary Clinton claimed personal credit today for the discovery of the Higgs boson ...

3 posted on 06/10/2004 4:13:43 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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The search for the Higgs continues ...

It was at my house eating chicken and dumplings last weekend.
Everyone definitely ended up more massive, so we're sure it was Higgs.

So9

4 posted on 06/10/2004 4:28:43 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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...answering one of science’s great conundrums—what gives mass, mass?

A yet-to-be-discovered particle that I shall dub RosieOdonnelium.

5 posted on 06/10/2004 4:30:29 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: PatrickHenry

There's no Top Quark really. Quarks belong to an autonomous hadronic commune.


6 posted on 06/10/2004 4:47:05 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

LOL!


7 posted on 06/10/2004 5:00:05 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Reagan is survived by his wife, 3 children, and the 10^8s of people he saved by winning the cold war)
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President Hillary Clinton claimed personal credit today for the discovery of the Higgs boson ...

She will share the Nobel Prize for Physics with Al Gore the inventor of Atom Smasher.

8 posted on 06/10/2004 5:11:02 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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Hag Hogs Higgs

Haha, VR wins the day! Brilliant.

You must hace cheated, that's too funny. Hrmph.

9 posted on 06/10/2004 6:41:31 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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Yee-Hah Patrick! Bookmarked.


10 posted on 06/10/2004 7:46:32 PM PDT by betty boop (The purpose of marriage is to civilize men, protect women, and raise children. -- William Bennett)
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I met Higgs about 20 years ago (at the University of Edinburgh) but I don't think that naming the particle the "Higgis" would be a good idea.
11 posted on 06/10/2004 8:54:57 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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"...of the dark matter that comprises 90 percent of the universe."

The article is slightly misleading here; the Universe is not 90% dark matter. What they mean to say is that of the matter that exists in the Universe, 90% of THAT is dark matter.

The latest figures for composition of the Universe are something like 4% ordinary matter, 21% dark matter, and about 75% dark energy. Matter of all types accounts for only about a quarter of the total composition.

</ nit-picking mode>

12 posted on 06/10/2004 9:04:39 PM PDT by longshadow
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...what gives mass, mass?

Points, lines, angles, surfaces, and completing curves....causal units, portal units, form units, and structure units....aerogen, pyrogen, geogen, and fluogen....on-ness, in-ness, through-ness, and presence....and other stuff, including fuddle.

13 posted on 06/10/2004 9:40:54 PM PDT by Consort
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...the Universe is not 90% dark matter. What they mean to say is that of the matter that exists in the Universe, 90% of THAT is dark matter.

The latest figures for composition of the Universe are something like 4% ordinary matter, 21% dark matter, and about 75% dark energy.

Hmmm... but 21%/25% is 84%. So I guess you're both wrong.
14 posted on 06/10/2004 11:20:03 PM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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Hags Hogs Higgs

President Hillary Clinton claimed personal credit today for the discovery of the Higgs boson ...

LOL!

15 posted on 06/11/2004 4:38:50 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PatrickHenry; Physicist

Hmmm. I'm a bit confused by this journalist's description of the Fermilab collisions. The article says that "When the accelerator smashes a quark and an anti-quark together, a top quark and an anti-top quark are occasionally created..." It was my understanding that free-standing quarks could not be created or observed; the amount of energy necessary to drag a quark out of another particle (due to the Strong force) would be enough to create another quark, so efforts to "liberate" quarks simply result in another composite particle. Did I miss something major, and do they actually have a collider that will accelerate and smash quarks? This has got to be journalist error...


16 posted on 06/11/2004 5:15:00 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Physicists do it with Force and Energy!)
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Well, the article isn't inaccurate; the quark and antiquark that collide actually reside in a proton and antiproton, respectively, at the time of the collision. That is to say, the accelerator collides a proton with an antiproton, but the actual quantum event that generates the top pair is an interaction between two of the pointlike constituent particles. The other constituent particles are just along for the ride, and are often referred to as "spectator" quarks.

The top and antitop quarks do not form hadrons, not through any mechanism that prevents their confinement, but by virtue of the fact that they decay so quickly. They decay in a time that is very short compared to the time it takes to form the hadrons.

17 posted on 06/11/2004 5:27:48 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin); Physicist

I'm delighted that Physicist responded to your question to which you pinged him and me; however, let the record be clear: I had no clue as to how to answer your question.


18 posted on 06/11/2004 6:23:14 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (God bless Ronald Reagan!)
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I had no clue as to how to answer your question.

Admit it; you think "hadrons" come from an ancient wall in England....

;-)

19 posted on 06/11/2004 11:03:52 AM PDT by longshadow
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Admit it; you think "hadrons" come from an ancient wall in England....

Actually, I thought that's what they call the tormented inhabitants of the underworld.

20 posted on 06/11/2004 11:15:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (God bless Ronald Reagan!)
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