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Two Are Said to Tell of Libyan Plot to Kill Saudi Ruler
New York Times ^ | June 9, 2004 | PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 06/09/2004 10:26:41 PM PDT by Dick Holmes

WASHINGTON, June 9 — While the Libyan leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, was renouncing terrorism and negotiating the lifting of sanctions last year, his intelligence chiefs ordered a covert operation to assassinate the ruler of Saudi Arabia and destabilize the oil-rich kingdom, according to statements by two participants in the conspiracy.

Those participants, Abdurahman Alamoudi, an American Muslim leader now in jail in Alexandria, Va., and Col. Mohamed Ismael, a Libyan intelligence officer in Saudi custody, have given separate statements to American and Saudi officials outlining the plot.

Mr. Alamoudi, has told Federal Bureau of Investigation officials and federal prosecutors that Colonel Qaddafi approved the assassination plan. Mr. Qaddafi's son, in an interview in London, called the accusation "nonsense."

American officials confirm that Mr. Alamoudi and Mr. Ismael have offered detailed accounts of a Libyan plot to assassinate Crown Prince Abdullah and that they appear to be credible enough to have launched an American investigation. But the officials said they are still examining the scope of the plot, how far it advanced and whether Colonel Qaddafi was involved. They said the accusations were one reason the United States had not removed Libya from the State Department's list of nations that support terrorism.

On Wednesday, a senior administration official said: "We are fully aware of Libya's significant past involvement with terrorism. Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi has pledged to end Libya's ties with terrorism and cooperate with the United States and our allies in the war on terrorism. We continue to monitor closely Libya's adherence to this pledge."...

Colonel Qaddafi and Crown Prince Abdullah clashed at the Arab summit meeting that immediately preceded the war in Iraq. The two leaders exchanged insults in open session, accusing each other of selling out to colonial powers. An indignant Prince Abdullah glared at Colonel Qaddafi and said, "Your lies precede you and your grave is in front of you."...

A senior Bush administration official said that the emergence of convincing evidence that Colonel Qaddafi ordered or condoned an assassination and terror campaign could cause a "180 degree" change of American policy toward Libya.

President Bush has conveyed to the Saudi royal family that he is going to find out what happened in the alleged conspiracy, according to a diplomat....

The accusations present a difficult problem for Saudi Arabia, which has suffered a series of major terrorist attacks in the last year, the most recent of which left 22 people dead during a shooting spree by militants in Khobar on the Persian Gulf coast.

Crown Prince Abdullah is said by two officials to be convinced that Colonel Qaddafi was out to kill him and decapitate the Saudi government. But the Saudi leader is also concerned about playing into the hands of American hardliners who might use the case to call for leadership change in Libya, a step that Saudi Arabia would oppose, officials said.

"We are going to really jam Qaddafi over this, but there is no pretext for regime change," the Saudi official said. "What is in our interest is to keep the caged animal in his cage."...

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After a number of large cash transfers, Mr. Alamoudi traveled to Tripoli in August and stated that, while there, he met again with Colonel Qaddafi.

"How come I haven't seen anything? How come I have not seen heads flying?" Colonel Qaddafi reportedly demanded?

Mr. Alamoudi briefed him on how plans were progressing.

In early August, Mr. Alamoudi was arrested at Heathrow Airport carrying $340,000 in cash that he later said he had received from a Libyan intelligence officer. British officials confiscated the cash and interrogated Mr. Alamoudi, who said he had accepted the money from the World Islamic Call Society, a Libyan-backed charity.

Mr. Alamoudi boarded a flight from London to Washington Dulles airport in late September, he was arrested upon landing.

He was later indicted accused of violating United States sanctions by traveling to Libya and by receiving funds from Libyan officials.

Colonel Ismael has freely spoken about the plot, according to persons familiar with his statement. During one F.B.I. interrogation, he was asked whether he had been tortured or abused in detention. He replied that he had been treated well and that he wanted to apply for political asylum, because he assumed that if he returns to Libya, he will be killed, the people said.

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Crown Prince Abdullah is said by two officials to be convinced that Colonel Qaddafi was out to kill him and decapitate the Saudi government. But the Saudi leader is also concerned about playing into the hands of American hardliners who might use the case to call for leadership change in Libya, a step that Saudi Arabia would oppose, officials said.

The Saudi crown prince must really be feeling boxed in!

1 posted on 06/09/2004 10:26:42 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: Dick Holmes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052017/posts

Accused Terrorist Wrote School Guidelines with ACLU

Abdurahman Alamoudi, President of the American Muslim Council, supporter of Hamas, Hezbollah and accused of ties with Osama bin Laden, helped develop "Religious Expression in Public School" with the ACLU which holds the copyright. Launched by Clinton in 1995, these "Presidential Guidelines" greatly impact public schools today. Nadine Strossen, President of the ACLU, refers to these guidelines as the authority to support the ACLU’s lawsuits restricting Christmas celebrations and removing Nativity scenes from public schools. ...


2 posted on 06/09/2004 10:32:41 PM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Dick Holmes

But Qaddafi is our friend now I thought. He's renounced WMDs. /Sarcasm


3 posted on 06/09/2004 11:03:31 PM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: endthematrix; cake_crumb; Diogenesis; Calpernia
More proof the Clintons are in bed with the terrorists

Cake crumb, how true that statement was! This is just terrible.

4 posted on 06/09/2004 11:04:23 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Dick Holmes; Matchett-PI; mcmuffin; M Kehoe
"...The Saudi crown prince must really be feeling boxed in!..."

The wogs really have a problem, Dick. Democratic-Republics are gonna start popping-up all over the place, and that Islamo-Bull$hit's gonna die!

When their women start loppin'-off their 'Johnsons', NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO SEE, except on Pay-TV, they'll have to get in line.

It should be interesting.............FRegards

5 posted on 06/09/2004 11:06:15 PM PDT by gonzo (God bless Ronald Reagan, Nancy Reagan, their children, and the USA. We were lucky to have them!.....)
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To: endthematrix; cake_crumb; Diogenesis; Calpernia

My apologies, this is in regard to the link on post #2.


6 posted on 06/09/2004 11:06:22 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: endthematrix

Hmmm, does that mean that the ACLU has terrorists ties? Does that mean we can freeze their bank accounts?


7 posted on 06/09/2004 11:09:03 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Dick Holmes

Just like the tammay tiger the leapard of Libya can't change it's spots.


8 posted on 06/10/2004 12:00:29 AM PDT by fella
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"Mrs. Clinton's June 30, 2000 Federal Election Commission filing cited Alamoudi's May 25 donation of $1,000 to her war chest. Oddly enough, his occupation is not listed as "American Muslim Council" but "American Museum Council." The Clinton campaign calls this a typo."

No Easy Ride for Hillary.

9 posted on 06/10/2004 3:24:18 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
Reagan would have destroyed Islamic Terror with ease. Reagan Memorial Photos.
10 posted on 06/10/2004 4:53:11 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: Dick Holmes
Assassination attempts, these are the tip of the iceberg. We in the United States naively think that the world is a safe place and that everyone just wants to get along in harmony. Yet underneath the surface of all countries and even our own are sharks waiting to devour. They swim around as silently as they can awaiting their chance to strike. Why? It is because men are greedy and seek more power for their avarice. That's why we need a Secret Service for our Presidents, that's why we have a department of defense.

I'm sure there are countless stories of attempts thwarted that never make it to the news. Men, and sometimes women are silently dying in the protection of our leaders. Even letting the news out that an attempt has been foiled can help our enemies. Our President currently has enemies without and he has his democratic enemies within. Sometimes I think the enemies within (one would wish they were only opponents) are worse.

This is why, I believe John Kerry is so dangerous. He is a proven intelligence botcher and defunder. He would undermine our military and emasculate the services that protect us. He said, a number of years ago, "Our democracy is a farce", so am I not right to believe that he would overturn our country into anther form? Perhaps a dictatorship with Teddy Kennedy as his minister of political correctness and Hillary in charge of national heath and nursing?

We need prayers for our country that the Lord would spare us of the evils within and without.

11 posted on 06/10/2004 5:23:40 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Dick Holmes
Further proof that you can't negotiate with terrorists.

Israel has tried for decades with Arafat and the number of killed Israelis continues to increase.

We have to treat terrorists/terrorism/Islamofanaticism as the threat it is. It is no less of a threat to our civilization than Nazism was, nor Communism was. We face what Europe faced in the 700s. We need to wake up and realize it. As a Nation, one of our first threats was from 'that' part of the world, as President Jefferson faced off against the 'Barbary Pirates.'
12 posted on 06/10/2004 5:26:02 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

NOt really, there was slammie terror for 1300 years before Reagan


13 posted on 06/10/2004 5:29:55 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Cronos

What I mean is...if something like 911 happened on his watch.


14 posted on 06/10/2004 5:30:55 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: Cronos

Oh I agree. There has been Islamic terror for a long time. I read an article the other day about Thomas Jefferson fighting it.


15 posted on 06/10/2004 5:31:28 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: TomGuy
As a Nation, one of our first threats was from 'that' part of the world, as President Jefferson faced off against the 'Barbary Pirates.'

speaking of pirates, they live on, and ARE getting bigger and bolder....

a cut from a recent article.

Posted: June 8, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Singapore is trying to blow the whistle on the global threat posed by jihadists taking their terror tactics to the sea.

Minister for Security Tony Tan said attacks on ships by sea pirates in Southeast Asia are resembling military operations – growing bolder, more violent and fuelling fears of an attack that would cripple world trade.

He said the risk of a devastating attack is growing.

"We have been alarmed not only by the increase in the number of pirate attacks in the sea lanes of communication in this part of the world, but also in the nature of the piracy attacks," said Tan.

The U.S. is considering a plan for a Regional Maritime Security Initiative to tighten surveillance of Southeast Asia's busy Malacca Strait, through which a third of world trade passes. But, as WND first reported based on information gathered by the premium online intelligence newsletter Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the threat of Islamist terrorism on the high seas is worldwide – not limited to one region.

"In previous years when you had a piracy attack, what it meant is that you have a sampan or a boat coming up to a cargo ship, pirates throwing up some ropes, scrambling on board, ransacking the ship for valuables, stealing money and then running away," Tan told an Asian security forum, according to a report in the Khaleej Times. "But the last piracy attack that took place in the Straits of Malacca showed a different pattern," he added. The pirates were well armed, operating sophisticated weapons and commanding high-speed boats. "They conducted the operation almost with military precision."

Tan added: "Instead of just ransacking the ship for valuables, they took command of the ship, and steered the ship for about an hour, and then eventually left with the captain in their captivity. To all of us, this is reminiscent of the pattern by which terrorists mount an attack."

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16 posted on 06/10/2004 5:55:31 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sr4402

I don't think too many folks think that America is a safe place. A safer place than most, perhaps, but after 9.11, we know we're not safe. Our enemies are within our borders.


17 posted on 06/10/2004 6:10:32 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: ConservativeMan55

You need to read a little history.

President Reagan destroyed the USSR.

He basically did nothing to contain Islamofascist terrorism with the exception of the bombing raid against Krazy Kadaffi. This is not throw blame at him. He had bigger dangers to defuse while he was president.

Americans were attacked and killed by Islamofascists during President Reagan's terms like 241 US Marines killed in Bierut and at US embassies attacked by Islmo terrorists:

"After Reagan became president, relations with Iran improved very little. On October 23, 1983, a truck bomb supposedly planted by Iranian terrorists killed 241 US marines in Beruit, Lebanon. On December 12, more truck bombs went off in Kuwait. Investigations into the bombings ensued, and soon, seventeen members of a group known as Da’wa (Arabic for “The Call”) were convicted. Angry allies of Da’wa in Lebanon decided to seize American hostages in exchange for the freedom of the prisoners.3 But the prisoners were not released, and on March 16, 1984, William Buckley was kidnapped and held in Lebannon by pro-Iranian extremists. He eventually died due to the torture that he suffered at the hands of the Iranians. In the following months, several more Americans were taken hostage."

President Reagan saved this country by destroying the USSR.

Don't belittle President Bush with your very limited knowledge the Islamofascists since the Days of Jimmy Carter.


18 posted on 06/10/2004 7:12:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them! ~~Ronald Reagan)
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An indignant Prince Abdullah glared at Colonel Qaddafi and said, "Your lies precede you and your grave is in front of you."...
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Isn't this where we heard the legendary phrase -- A curse on your moustache?

19 posted on 06/10/2004 7:35:15 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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Curse be on your moustache, Kuwait warned
Oliver Burkeman in Washington
Thursday March 6, 2003
The Guardian

A senior aide to Saddam Hussein threw diplomatic niceties to the wind yesterday, bringing disorder to an emergency summit of Islamic states when he yelled "Shut up, you monkey!" at Kuwait's minister of state for foreign affairs.

Years of bitterness between Iraq and Kuwait boiled over at the Organisation of the Islamic Conference in Qatar, when Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri responded to an inaudible interruption from the Kuwaiti minister of state, Sheikh Mohammed Sabah al-Salem al-Sabah.

He called him a monkey and added: "Curse be upon your moustache!" - an idiomatic phrase impugning the minister's honour.

20 posted on 06/10/2004 7:37:16 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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