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US soldiers could face war crimes charges
Reuters ^ | 6/05/04 | Robert Evans

Posted on 06/04/2004 6:03:02 PM PDT by kattracks

GENEVA (Reuters) - The United Nations' top human rights official says abuses by U.S. soldiers of Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison could amount to war crimes.

Acting High Commissioner for Human Rights Bertrand Ramcharan said on Friday U.S.-led occupation forces had committed "serious violations" of international humanitarian law in Iraq and had ill-treated ordinary Iraqis.

In a report for the world body's Human Rights Commission, Ramcharan, a British-trained barrister from Guyana and long-time U.N. official, also said coalition troops were able to act with impunity and urged the appointment of an independent figure to monitor their behaviour.

In a clear reference to the Abu Ghraib incidents, since when several U.S. male and female soldiers working there have been detained, Ramcharan said "wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment" of detainees was a grave breach of international law.

Such acts "might be designated as war crimes by a competent tribunal", he added.

The only U.S. soldier to face court martial so far for his role in the Abu Ghraib abuses was sent to jail for one year.

U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli declined to comment on whether U.S. soldiers may have committed war crimes at Abu Ghraib and said the United States believed its soldiers should be judged within the U.S. military justice system.

Ereli said reports that U.S. forces may have mistreated ordinary Iraqis were troubling and Washington would ask for more details.

The United States has refused to sign a 1998 treaty creating the world's first permanent global war crimes tribunal.

The United States was one of 135 nations to sign the treaty under former President Bill Clinton. But President George W. Bush's administration rescinded the signature, fearing the court could bring politically motivated or frivolous cases against U.S. troops serving on foreign soil.

The 45-page report cited one former Abu Ghraib detainee, Saddam Abood Al-Rawi, 29, as telling U.N. investigators he was subjected to 18 days of torture at the U.S.-run prison.

This included the pulling of teeth, kicking and beating and threats of rape, and warnings he would be killed if he told a visiting international Red Cross team about his treatment.

The report quoted Rawi as saying that he suffered physical torture when he was held at an Iraqi prison under ousted president Saddam Hussein. But under U.S.-led occupation forces, he was additionally subjected to "humiliation and mental cruelty".

CRITICISED AS "LIGHT"

"The serious violations of human rights and humanitarian law that have taken place (since U.S. and British troops invaded Iraq in March last year and ousted then President Saddam Hussein) must not be allowed to recur," the report said.

But the report, which asserted that "everyone accepts" that the U.S. and its allies intended their troops in Iraq to behave well, drew criticism from Reed Brody, special counsel to the U.S.-based Human Rights Watch organisation.

"It seems very light, and to bend over backwards to accept the good faith of the U.S.," he told Reuters by telephone. "I don't think it is the place of the U.N. human rights office to evaluate the intentions of a state or group of states."

Ramcharan's spokesman, Jose Luis Diaz, denied there had been any outside effort to have the report watered down. "There was no pressure on this office," he told Reuters.

Ramcharan suggested that among the more serious violations was the jailing of large numbers of Iraqis without anyone's knowledge and without any reasons being given.

His report, submitted to U.S. and British officials for comment on Wednesday, cited Iraqis interviewed in Amman as speaking of "arbitrary arrests and detention as an ongoing phenomenon" since the invasion.

The report said Saddam's removal was a major contribution to human rights in Iraq. His government "was a brutal, murderous, torturing gang that preyed on its own people".

"Everyone accepts the good intentions of the coalition governments as regards the behaviour of their forces in Iraq," Ramcharan said. Iraq could now be "on the road to democracy, the rule of law, and governance that is respectful of human rights".



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; icc; inyourdreams; warcrimes
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1 posted on 06/04/2004 6:03:03 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Oh Please UN give us any and all reasons to pull out of you and kick you off our soil.


2 posted on 06/04/2004 6:05:24 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: kattracks

Don't even think about it, Kofi.


3 posted on 06/04/2004 6:09:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: kattracks

What jurisdiction does the UN have over our soldiers? They were the ones who wussed out because their building got blown up. Time to put a boot up the arse of the UN.


4 posted on 06/04/2004 6:09:28 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

None. Zip. Nada. Zero. Zilch.


5 posted on 06/04/2004 6:09:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

Go ahead Kofi; I dare you.


6 posted on 06/04/2004 6:10:10 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: kattracks

Hey UN.....FU!


7 posted on 06/04/2004 6:10:36 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: kattracks

I would personally SHOOT the first person who tried to take an American serviceman to a war crime trial - even those stupid idiots.

Now clinton?/? they can have him.


8 posted on 06/04/2004 6:11:37 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: kattracks
Such acts "might be designated as war crimes by a competent tribunal", he added.

That would rule out the ICC and the UN, wouldn't it?

9 posted on 06/04/2004 6:11:59 PM PDT by kcar (www.TheUNsucks.com)
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To: kattracks
Oh no. This will not happen.

Kofi, we wash our own laundry and we do not need and will not accept your 'help'.

The U.S. Army has jurisdiction here and no one else.

BTW, to hell with the UN.

10 posted on 06/04/2004 6:12:58 PM PDT by LibKill (America! While I live, breath, and can stand, I will defend her.)
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To: kattracks

War crimes? Maybe our soldiers involved should just say they are Muslims, that way anything they do can be completely ignored not to mention ever protested.


11 posted on 06/04/2004 6:13:07 PM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: kattracks

God bless GWB for getting us out of that war crimes agreement.


12 posted on 06/04/2004 6:14:16 PM PDT by dandi ("No nation ever taxed it's way into prosperity." - R.L.)
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To: kattracks
If John French Kerry wins in November, those troops are doomed.

So9

13 posted on 06/04/2004 6:15:59 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: kattracks

Unfortunately we are fighting people in civilian clothing and not a nation. This is not a war against a nation and there are no uniform soldiers. We are fighting terrorists. Besides, about the biggest 'crime' I have seen is putting panties on some guys head.


14 posted on 06/04/2004 6:16:42 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Howlin

I wonder if the UN is equally enthusiastic about being prosecuted for the Oil for FUBAR scam.


15 posted on 06/04/2004 6:18:01 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: kattracks

This will never happen with Bush as President....now, if Kerry gets elected, it's another story.


16 posted on 06/04/2004 6:18:36 PM PDT by mystery-ak (*They are all Pat Tillman's*........Rush)
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To: Always Right

Kofi Anan may strut out to tell the U.S. how we're going to run our military, but he's going to limp back. With panties on his head.


17 posted on 06/04/2004 6:21:43 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: kattracks

I wish somebody would drag Kofi out of his office and put Helen Thomas' underwear on his head so he'd understand exactly where the war crimes' line is.


18 posted on 06/04/2004 6:22:11 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: kattracks

UN tries and there won't be any more UN.

On second thought, go ahead Kofi.


19 posted on 06/04/2004 6:23:50 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: kattracks

The UN can clearly see right outside the window of their building right in Iraq what is actually going there - oh, wait a minute... they ran away and acted French.


20 posted on 06/04/2004 6:26:02 PM PDT by Bernard
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