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Fireworks over the Boy Scouts
Opinion Editorials ^ | 6/4/04 | Hans Zeigler

Posted on 06/04/2004 9:41:41 AM PDT by RonF

I hereby declare that you, my reader, are prohibited from adding to the coffers of the City of Madison, Wisconsin. If this declaration sounds a bit strange, it is meant only as a pasquinade of the Madison City Council’s recent unanimous decision that a private Independence Day festival to which it gives modest funds cannot raise money for another private organization: the Boy Scouts of America.

Each Fourth of July, the Rhythm and Booms fireworks show and concert raises thousands of dollars for an array of private local charities. Last year, the Boy Scouts took in $2,500 as hundreds of Scouts volunteered at the event. This year, the Scouts can volunteer, but they can’t benefit from the fundraising because, in the words of City Alder Steve Holtzman, it “would be sending a very unfortunate message to the community.”

Actually, Alder Holtzman misjudged. The city council decision itself was an exceedingly unfortunate message to the nation that Madison, Wisconsin prefers the far extremes of political correctness above moral straightness.

Indeed, this most odious coercion by the city council was a response to the Boy Scouts’ policy prohibiting homosexual members and leaders, a policy upheld as a constitutionally protected right by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000.

Two circumstances would justify a forced exclusion of the Boy Scouts from fundraising at Rhythm and Booms. First, the Boy Scouts could be an anti-homosexual hate group. Second, the city could be the primary sponsor of the event and correctly tell the hate group that it cannot partake of fundraising activities.

Neither of these are actual circumstances, though the Madison City Council acts as though they are. The Boy Scouts are as far from being a hate group as the American Civil Liberties Union is from defending the Scouts in a lawsuit case; the Boy Scouts teach respect for all people and the slogan remains “Do a good turn daily.” And the City of Madison is one co-sponsor among several for Rhythm and Booms.

Nevertheless, the City of Madison’s $60,000 contribution to the event (of a total $600,000 event cost) is newly conditioned by a ferocious condemnation of America’s finest youth organization.

For Independence Day, when nothing could be more American that the Boy Scouts, the City of Madison will be exploding fireworks upon a Scout’s honor. Thankfully, that honor is sacred, and they cannot actually destroy it. But outrageously, the vote by the Madison City Council to force an exclusion of the Boy Scouts from the Rhythm and Booms fundraising activities was unanimous.

Every member of the Madison City Council deserves the repudiation of the citizen and the voter. It may not come in any large measure, for Madison is a liberal city.

So liberal in fact, that even the Four Lakes Boy Scout Council of the greater Madison area asked the national Boy Scouts of America to lift its ban on homosexuals. That request came in the aftermath of a decision by the United Way of Dane County in 2001 to cut off thousands of dollars in funding to the Four Lakes Council Boy Scouts.

This latest injury by the Madison City Council will only increase the pressure on the local Boy Scouts to seek the ways of political correctness. This is a tragedy in the making, not only in Madison, but also in every major city in America where it isn’t any longer acceptable to adhere to codes of honor and traditional moral character.

Madison bears in vain the name of that founding father who once observed, “Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”

These are gradual and silent encroachments by the powerful against the Boy Scouts. Unless a greater power is asserted by freedom loving Americans, the Boy Scouts will become the final casualty of political correctness. Much is at stake.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; homosexual; homosexualagenda; madison
It would be interesting to see who the City of Madison does give its money to, and what organizations the receipients do or do not support.
1 posted on 06/04/2004 9:41:44 AM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF
pasquinade

Had to break out the dictionary for that one.

2 posted on 06/04/2004 9:45:19 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: RonF

Some people think that the founder of the Boy Scouts, Lord Robert Baden-Powell, was gay himself.


3 posted on 06/04/2004 9:47:01 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13
The people who 'think he was gay' think he was a REPRESSED homosexual. In other words: he controlled himself. No one thinks he was an active nor avowed homosexual. Also, the evidence they point to, if it means anything, means he liked to look at boys. If these people say that is evidence he was 'gay' then they are saying to be 'gay' is to be a pedophile. Gee, these same people argue that we can't equate the two. Somewhere there logic fails. Anyway, they lack any real proof, it is all speculation in support of their political agenda. Just gossip.

Anyway, for those who care: Baden-Powell founded the Boy Scouts in England, which pre-dates the Boy Scouts of America. He really had nothing to do with the founding of the Boy Scouts of America.

4 posted on 06/04/2004 9:54:18 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: conserv13

"Some people think that the founder of the Boy Scouts, Lord Robert Baden-Powell, was gay himself."

According to the historical revisionist of the pro-homosexual political left, everyone of any historical importance was "gay".


5 posted on 06/04/2004 9:55:49 AM PDT by Busywhiskers (Non entia multiplicandia sunt prater necessetatum. William Occam)
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To: RonF
"FIREWORKS OVER BOYSCOUTS"

As long as it isn't: FIREWORKS UNDER BOYSCOUTS! ! !

6 posted on 06/04/2004 9:58:06 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Never forget 9/11. Thank You to our Military, Police & Firefighters for keeping our Country FREE! !)
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To: RonF

For information on the legal battles of the BSA and how you can help, go to:

http://www.bsalegal.org


7 posted on 06/04/2004 9:58:23 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: conserv13

Some people think we didn't land on the moon. "Some people" are wrong and "some people" will say anything (LIE) to further thier agendas.


8 posted on 06/04/2004 10:01:55 AM PDT by airborne (lead by example)
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To: RonF
This year, the Scouts can volunteer, but they can’t benefit from the fundraising because, in the words of City Alder Steve Holtzman, it “would be sending a very unfortunate message to the community.”

Actually, Mr. Holtzman, it is you who are sending a message to the community.

And what an ugly, spiteful, small-minded message it is.

You should be ashamed of your very existence.

9 posted on 06/04/2004 10:05:41 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: SandRat

Ping


10 posted on 06/04/2004 10:16:15 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot" - Dirty Harry)
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To: RonF

"It would be interesting to see who the City of Madison does give its money to, and what organizations the receipients do or do not support."

I live in MADison, and I can tell you this. You don't want to even know. It would make you explode in a fit of rage.


11 posted on 06/04/2004 10:17:00 AM PDT by Oblongata
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To: RonF

We should ask Holtzman and the Madison City council if they think these are bad messages / ideals for the community to be teaching kids;

A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly
Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave
Clean, and Reverent

The scout law!

The city council is bereft of any of these qualities.


12 posted on 06/04/2004 10:19:38 AM PDT by pblax8
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To: RonF

Homosexuality is a bad choice.


13 posted on 06/04/2004 10:23:49 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: pblax8

I want to know
what kind of person would want their 11 y.o. son going on an overnighter with a 19 y.o. homosexual?


14 posted on 06/04/2004 10:46:44 AM PDT by genghis
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - Madison vies with Ithaca as the "City of Evil" - more attacks on the Boy Scouts.

Ok, more homework!

We should all support the Boy Scouts - even very small donations are appreciated, and we can tell them WHY we support them!

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist!


15 posted on 06/04/2004 10:55:32 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Take Back The Rainbow! Take back the word "GAY"!)
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To: RonF
it “would be sending a very unfortunate message to the community.”

The unfortunate message here is one of threatening boyscouts and those wanting to have nothing to do with homos. It's their body, they can choose.

16 posted on 06/04/2004 4:10:04 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: RonF

Okay, I'm convinced. I'm sending a donation to the Boy Scouts.


17 posted on 06/05/2004 10:41:16 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Honour thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land)
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To: RonF
"...who the City of Madison does give its money to..."

I live in Madison, and you would probably be shocked to see to whom & to what insane causes these fascists in the city council will give millions of tax dollars to.

18 posted on 06/05/2004 11:10:36 AM PDT by NoClones
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To: RonF
This latest injury by the Madison City Council will only increase the pressure on the local Boy Scouts to seek the ways of political correctness

I hope not, there is really nothing in the law that says everyone has a right to everything else. (Or the right not to be excluded or offended where private groups are concerned.)

19 posted on 06/05/2004 11:53:18 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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