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DISCORSO DEL SANTO PADRE (Text Of Pope John Paul II Speech)
The Vatican ^ | 6/04/2004 | Vatican News Services

Posted on 06/04/2004 4:39:07 AM PDT by monkapotamus

Mr. President,

1. I offer a warm welcome to you and to Mrs. Bush, and to the distinguished Delegation accompanying you. I also extend a cordial and affectionate greeting to all the people of the United States whom you represent. I thank you for wishing to meet with me again, in spite of the difficulties presented by your own many commitments during this present visit to Europe and Italy, and by my own departure tomorrow morning for a meeting with young people in Switzerland.

2. You are visiting Italy to commemorate the sixtieth anniversary of the liberation of Rome and to honor the memory of the many American soldiers who gave their lives for their country and for the freedom of the peoples of Europe. I join you in recalling the sacrifice of those valiant dead and in asking the Lord that the mistakes of the past, which gave rise to appalling tragedies, may never again be repeated. Today I too think back with great emotion on the many Polish soldiers who died for the freedom of Europe.

Our thoughts also turn today to the twenty years in which the Holy See and the United States have enjoyed formal diplomatic relations, established in 1984 under President Reagan. These relations have promoted mutual understanding on great issues of common interest and practical cooperation in different areas. I send my regards to President Reagan and to Mrs. Reagan, who is so attentive to him in his illness. I would also like to express my esteem for all the Representatives of the United States to the Holy See, together with my appreciation for the competence, sensitivity and great commitment with which they have favored the development of our relations.

3. Mr. President, your visit to Rome takes place at a moment of great concern for the continuing situation of grave unrest in the Middle East, both in Iraq and in the Holy Land. You are very familiar with the unequivocal position of the Holy See in this regard, expressed in numerous documents, through direct and indirect contacts, and in the many diplomatic efforts which have been made since you visited me, first at Castelgandolfo on 23 July 2001, and again in this Apostolic Palace on 28 May 2002.

4. It is the evident desire of everyone that this situation now be normalized as quickly as possible with the active participation of the international community and, in particular, the United Nations Organization, in order to ensure a speedy return of Iraq’s sovereignty, in conditions of security for all its people. The recent appointment of a Head of State in Iraq and the formation of an interim Iraqi government are an encouraging step towards the attainment of this goal. May a similar hope for peace also be rekindled in the Holy Land and lead to new negotiations, dictated by a sincere and determined commitment to dialogue, between the Government of Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

5. The threat of international terrorism remains a source of constant concern. It has seriously affected normal and peaceful relations between States and peoples since the tragic date of 11 September 2001, which I have not hesitated to call "a dark day in the history of humanity". In the past few weeks other deplorable events have come to light which have troubled the civic and religious conscience of all, and made more difficult a serene and resolute commitment to shared human values: in the absence of such a commitment neither war nor terrorism will ever be overcome. May God grant strength and success to all those who do not cease to hope and work for understanding between peoples, in respect for the security and rights of all nations and of every man and woman.

6. At the same time, Mr. President, I take this opportunity to acknowledge the great commitment of your Government and of your nation’s numerous humanitarian agencies, particularly those of Catholic inspiration, to overcoming the increasingly intolerable conditions in various African countries, where the suffering caused by fratricidal conflicts, pandemic illnesses and a degrading poverty can no longer be overlooked.

I also continue to follow with great appreciation your commitment to the promotion of moral values in American society, particularly with regard to respect for life and the family.

7. A fuller and deeper understanding between the United States of America and Europe will surely play a decisive role in resolving the great problems which I have mentioned, as well as so many others confronted by humanity today. May your visit, Mr. President, give new and powerful impetus to such cooperation.

Mr. President, as you carry out your lofty mission of service to your nation and to world peace, I assure you of my prayers and cordially invoke upon you God’s blessings of wisdom, strength and peace.

May God bestow peace and freedom upon all mankind!

[00906-02.02] [Original text: English]

I am grateful, Mr. President, for this thoughtful gesture.

May the desire for freedom, peace and a more humane world symbolized by this medal inspire men and women of good will in every time and place.

God bless America!


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bush; catholic; johnpaulii; pope; rome; vatican; vaticanvisit
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1 posted on 06/04/2004 4:39:09 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

In short, the Pope said nothing of importance. Pro forma good wishes to all, a reminder that he doesn't have a clue anymore (reiterating all of his opposition to the war) and plugging the UN.


2 posted on 06/04/2004 4:47:12 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: monkapotamus
I send my regards to President Reagan and to Mrs. Reagan, who is so attentive to him in his illness.

This is especially poignant since he is probably looking into his future.

3 posted on 06/04/2004 4:59:49 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: CatoRenasci
I understand how you can be impacted by the Pope and accept your analysis as honest and well meaning. However, many Catholics, including self, probably hear a different message and are very inspired by the Pope. He is above gamesmanship and politics. I hope Kerry begins to listen to him someday. I also felt that he acknowledged the reality of war and the addition of Israel as part of the problems and issues with Iraq was well said. Please don't think I am being critical of your opinion. I think your observations are very important.

God Bless America
4 posted on 06/04/2004 5:06:50 AM PDT by SpeakingUp
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To: SpeakingUp
Although I have serious issues with his rejection of capitalism (which I attribute to ignorance of economics, and traditional Church hostility to capitalism) and promotion of a vapid socialism, this Pope did great good for the Faith and the world in the early, vigorous years of his Pontificate. As you say, he has been a great inspiration.

That said, he is now clearly not in charge and, what is truly sad, does not have a clue at the threat posed by radical and even 'ordinary' islam to the West and to Christianity. In that sense, he aids and comforts those Europeans who seek to undermine the United States, when he does not explicitly stand with them, as he has (or has allowed his minions to position him) done in opposing the Iraq war. I wish him well, beatification, even sainthood in the fullness of time, but I do wish him to step down before he does more harm to the Church and Christendom.

5 posted on 06/04/2004 5:37:17 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci
In the past few weeks other deplorable events have come to light......

Do you think he is referring to additional terror attacks or Abu Ghraib? I say the later.

6 posted on 06/04/2004 5:40:49 AM PDT by alisasny (SMARTY JONES FOR SECRETARY OF OFFENSE)
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To: CatoRenasci

There are many good voices on the issues you raise. There are too few good voices on the issues the Pope raises. I hear your concerns and I also hear his message. I also share with you the need for a firm hand and a steady course to deal with the reality of the threats to our nation.


7 posted on 06/04/2004 5:45:15 AM PDT by SpeakingUp
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To: SpeakingUp
There are too few good voices on the issues the Pope raises.

Just which issues do you have in mind? He is completely wrong on the war on terror, completely wrong on capitalism, completely ineffectual on homosexuals in the priesthood and child abuse, completely indifferent (in deed) to the slaughter of Christians by moslems in the Sudan, Indonesia and elsewhere, completely wrong in his support for the Palestinians who would destroy Israel (btw I am NOT jewish). In all of these areas, he his not taking a courageous path, or voicing that which is not already trumpeted from the leftwing European press. He is following the path of least resistance guided by advisors who place their own political power above spiritual matters and who hate America.

8 posted on 06/04/2004 5:52:01 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci

I had no intention to start an argument. I am inspired and that works for me. If you want to argue the many points you refer to, I am the wrong person to ask. BTW, I am Catholic and I have served in the military as has my son whom I encouraged to do so. I am not anti war and I am very aware of the the horrible conditions you outline.


10 posted on 06/04/2004 5:57:11 AM PDT by SpeakingUp (Inspired by the Pope)
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To: monkapotamus

Thank you for posting this


11 posted on 06/04/2004 6:03:15 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: SpeakingUp

Sorry, I didn't mean to start an argument, either. It is good to be inspired by men of faith. I was (am) genuinely curious which issue you believe the Holy Father speaks to on which there are few good voices.


12 posted on 06/04/2004 6:03:27 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci
Faith and morals, the need to pray, God's 10 commandments, respect for others. While not mentioned in every speech he makes, they are of great inspiration to me. I am not expecting him to be a general. I don't look to the Pope for political guidance or strategy. I think we have had sufficient generals and politicians over the past many years and we are still in deep trouble in this world. I look to the Pope for inspiration on things of the next world. I look to others for guidance in the worldly affairs. I also realize that the world is very dangerous and would be far better off if we all obeyed the simple tenants of Judeo Christian Law but I know that having only part of the world following the laws is not effective. I know you don't want to argue too. We probably could not find enough differences anyway.
13 posted on 06/04/2004 6:18:35 AM PDT by SpeakingUp (Inspired by the Pope)
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To: seamole
I had to read your comment many times to fully appreciate the line about cynicism. Very well said if I am reading that the Inconvenient translates to the Unborn.
14 posted on 06/04/2004 6:29:58 AM PDT by SpeakingUp
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

ping


16 posted on 06/04/2004 6:37:36 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: SpeakingUp

I cannot disagree with anything in your post. My 'beef,' if you will, is when the Holy Father (or those who now manipulate him) goes beyond matters of Faith and Morals to what seem to me matters of politics or strategy.


17 posted on 06/04/2004 6:47:51 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: monkapotamus; Aquinasfan
Can some Catholic help this poor Episcopalian girl understand something? (AquinasFan, I have it in my head from your nick that you're Catholic. If not, apologies.)

Why does the Pope have to DIE in office? Why can't he step down? I know about tradition, and I'm also pretty familiar with the schism and Avignon and all that, but in 2004 it seems we could do better than adhering to a tradition that requires one poor man hold an office beyond incapacitation to death.

John Paul II has served his faith well. It's well past time for him to retire and rest.
18 posted on 06/04/2004 6:50:24 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Cedar lattice . . . works every time.)
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To: CatoRenasci

Actually, the Pope's encyclical Centesimus Annus was more pro-capitalism than previous papal social encyclicals. And Catholic social teaching has always upheld private property against socialism, and merely says that the government should take into account the common good and that laborers should have a living wage.


19 posted on 06/04/2004 6:57:01 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: CatoRenasci
Hello again. I just reread the entire speech. I still like it and he does call for a return of Iraq's sovereignty in conditions of security. That is not quite a 'Yankee go home'. But to the political point, it is and should not be the role of the Vatican to decide or influence elections or suggest strategy. We clearly agree here. But we can take moral guidance from too few places today and I like his.

My last comment on the issue, I always look forward to your comments and replies.
20 posted on 06/04/2004 7:29:22 AM PDT by SpeakingUp (Honest discourse promotes progress.)
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