Posted on 06/02/2004 12:49:11 AM PDT by neverdem
I took Prozac once, in my early 20's. Can't say I noticed any difference when I was on it, but I sure felt suicidal when I came off it (when I hadn't before being prescribed it.) Go figure.
If your child has severe mental problems, get to a good psychiatrist immediately.
Drugs are the easy way out. Too often, they become the final way out.
I have the same reaction from tequila.
And what medical condition do you take that for? :-P
I don't remember. :o)
Da. I store it in the freezer.
Mine never lasts that long...
Sobriety.
Cheers to that! ROTFLMAO
Gardiner Harris FLIP-FLOPS as much as JOHN KERRY...
http://www.timeswatch.org/topicindex/H/harris_gardiner/welcome.asp
Gardiner Harris
October 29 -- Times Bias Toward Bad Medicine?
Does the Times have a bad news bias when it comes to prescription drug coverage? Gardiner Harris' story in August concerning possible safety problems with anti-depressant drugs made the Times front page. But his latest story, which somewhat contradicts that premise, is buried on the last page of section F.
August 7 -- The Times Anti-Drug War Continues
Gardiner Harris front-page story on anti-depression drugs is the latest in a series of prominently placed stories critical of the drug industry
If your child has severe mental problems, the first step, IMO, is take a hard honest look at what kind of parents you are. Becky
But adolescent depression is definitely something that IMO is over-treated with drugs. My sense is that a lot of kids are depressed by school and all the nonsense they often have to put up with there. Simply removing them from school, letting them "decompress" for a few months, and then homeschooling them probably would help more than a few.
No one was talking about these kind of problems, and throwing this factor in clouds the issue. I/the article was speaking of depressed children and drugging them.
But adolescent depression is definitely something that IMO is over-treated with drugs. My sense is that a lot of kids are depressed by school and all the nonsense they often have to put up with there. Simply removing them from school, letting them "decompress" for a few months, and then homeschooling them probably would help more than a few.
Why is heavens name are there soooooooo many depressed children out there now a days???? That's what we need to figure out. Drugs treat a symptom not the cause.
From the things I have read doctors try to tell people that depression is caused from a chemical imbalance. IMO, chemical imbalace is caused from depression, IOW's chemical imbalance is a symptom not the cause. Everyone I know, and I know alot of them, that is "depressed" started out by giving in to depression to the point that it ruled their life. IOW, I believe depression is a symptom of undisplined selfishness. Wallowing in self pity to the point that it does cause a chemical imbalance and boom now we can blame our depression on something besides our own selves.
Kids no a days get NO displine from anywhere. Parents are so focused on their own little selves, they either pay no attention to their kid, or give their kids everything they want and sign them up for all kinds of activities, and feel they have been a "good" parent, and THEN on top of it send these kids into the school system and expect it to be "fun" for the kids. Everything in this life does not have to be fun. Kids need to learn that life is not always fun, and learn how to deal with it. I believe a disiplined kid who learns that work can be enjoyable (different then "fun) will be a happier kid. But that takes work on the parents part.
There is a family in the neighbor hood where I live that has 3 boys. They are/were all on ritlin. Now they are all "depressed" and being treated for that. They are all 3 turning in to petty criminals. The oldest is 17 has never worked and did good in school when he was in a special program where it was "fun". Then he hit high school and was expected to go into regular classes and failed miserably. I'd say from the looks of it the other 2 will follow in his steps. The parents do nothing with these boys except haul them to sports events, oh and of course their counselors, and blame everything on "chemical imbalance"
I know I sound harsh:), I'm really not. But I'm sick of giving parents free passes on the things their kids do and turn out to be. They all want to blame things besides themselves, and find an easy solution to the problems so they can say they did "everything" they could, but continue on in their own selfish lives.
Becky
Can somebody explain the apparent contradiction about the risk of suicide in the last two sentences?
The last that I read was that trade name drugs have patent protection for seventeen years. Does anybody know if Prozac, which has the generic name of fluoxetine, still has patent protection?
Prozac is currently approved for the following indications: major depression, panic disorder, bulemia and obsessive - compulsive disorder. However, once a drug has FDA approval for any indication, a doc is free to use it for any other indication.
The researchers collected data on the subjects for a year, but have only analyzed information from the first 12 weeks so far. Of the youths recruited for the study, 378 completed the first 12 weeks of treatment. Their mean age was 15. Depression levels were measured using several common psychological scales.
Dr. Thomas Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health, said he was pleased the results of the depression study were so clear. The institute spent $17 million over six years financing the trial. "The most striking thing about the study is that, in all groups, there was a dramatic decrease in the amount of suicidal thinking,'' he said, suggesting that all the therapies were protective.
The researchers said they plan to publish the preliminary results of the study this summer, with further analyses later.
The sample size still seems small, the study seems quite expensive, and the results are not yet published in a peer reviewed journal, but it's on the Times' front page and making the hourly news updates.
I read the Slimes with a skeptical eye.
Thanks for the link. It seems the Times' editors have an addiction to attention grabbing headlines.
This is a very normal reaction to coming of these drugs, doctors usually use a "taper off" process to try to avoid this reaction.
Maybe cynicism is more appropriate than skepticism with the "paper of record" these days?
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