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To: struwwelpeter

Egyptians were rather clever before they got the moslem disease....

This slur indicates a complete lack of historical perspective.

The Alexandrian educational complex although in Egypt, was Greek. The next educational leap actually came out of the Islamic conquest.

Your own Western thought sprang from Arab scholorship discovered during the Crusades.


10 posted on 05/31/2004 7:35:18 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: bert

Source?


15 posted on 05/31/2004 7:43:26 AM PDT by null and void (If you think more government is the solution to every problem, North Korea should be your paradise!)
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To: bert

The great scholarship of the Mohammedans was almost all due to Christians, Jews and converts. The caliphs and sultans took Christians and Jews and a few Zoroastrians to be their advisers and viziers. Most, not all, were converted to Islam or feigned conversion. Some of these stars were children of the original converts. The scholarship consisted mostly of translation into Arabic of the Greek texts from Alexandria and Antioch and Edessa, etc. that preserved much before the Islamic destruction of originals.


16 posted on 05/31/2004 7:44:41 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: bert
"Your own Western thought sprang from Arab scholorship discovered during the Crusades."

What "Arab" scholarship would that be? Plato and the Eliatics were merely rediscovered; Arab philosophic "scholarship" is still defined by a single person - Alfarabi.

23 posted on 05/31/2004 10:20:49 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: bert

Nope, not even close.


27 posted on 05/31/2004 12:23:31 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: bert

I believe the mohamedan invaiders burned the library to the ground.


34 posted on 06/01/2004 5:28:07 AM PDT by correctthought (Shop smart, shop S-mart.)
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To: bert

"Your own Western thought sprang from Arab scholorship discovered during the Crusades."

What complete b*ll*cks.


47 posted on 10/03/2006 12:06:43 AM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: bert
Your own Western thought sprang from Arab scholorship discovered during the Crusades

Um, make that Western thought re-discovered. The Arabs of that era were still intellectually living off the plunder of Christian Civilizations they had overrun. It did help snap us out of the 'Dark Ages,' as did the Byzantine refugees from Islam who flooded into Europe, particularly the Italian City States.

The Muslims are owed a debt for preserving such Classical Knowledge as they did, and should also properly be castigated for that which they destroyed or forgot. Note I say "Muslims," not Arabs. Many of the "Muslim Best and Brightest" were actually forcibly converted Christians, and especially Jews.

Intellectually speaking, Islam has been an intellectual curse and a civilizational retrograde movement in those countries unlucky enough to have fallen to Arab conquest.

48 posted on 04/14/2007 11:05:02 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Hillary: A sociopath's enabler in the White House?)
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