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CNN actually put some guy on a show saying that my film contains "so many falsehoods, one after the other, after the other, after the other." They introduced him as a "critic" and "research director" of the "Independence Institute." He seemed mighty impressive.

Except they failed to tell their viewers who he really was: a contributing editor of Gun Week Magazine.

Oh no, not GUN WEEK!!!!!!!!!! I guess that automatically makes him bias. If they put someone from Men's Health Mag on there would their opinion be biased too since Moore is a "plus sized" fella?

1 posted on 05/26/2004 9:28:04 AM PDT by EsclavoDeCristo
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These are not nice people and they don't play nice – that's how they got to be so powerful.

Perfectly sums up Michael Moore himself.

2 posted on 05/26/2004 9:33:28 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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Wow, not just liars, but lying liars. They say that those are the worst kind. (but they could have been lying)
3 posted on 05/26/2004 9:33:40 AM PDT by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo

Note how Moore doesn't offer facts to back up his case -- he just calls those who oppose him nasty names. I'd expect better from an 8-year-old.


4 posted on 05/26/2004 9:35:09 AM PDT by kevkrom (The John Kerry Songbook: www.imakrom.com/kerrysongs)
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Except they failed to tell their viewers who he really was: a contributing editor of Gun Week Magazine.

This is an "Attack the Messenger" logical fallacy. Whether he's contributing editor of Gun Week or not, doesn't have any bearing whatsoever on his claims about lies in BFC.

Of course all gun grabbers have is logical fallacies, and MM is no exception.

5 posted on 05/26/2004 9:36:11 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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CNN actually put some guy on a show saying that my film contains "so many falsehoods, one after the other, after the other, after the other." They introduced him as a "critic" and "research director" of the "Independence Institute." He seemed mighty impressive. Except they failed to tell their viewers who he really was: a contributing editor of Gun Week Magazine.

Notice that Moore doesn't refute what the guy said, he just questions his motives. Classic propaganda technique.

6 posted on 05/26/2004 9:36:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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Funny how the fat bastard doesn't even acknowledge the Fred Barnes piece in the Weekly Standard which calls Moore the lying liar -

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/127ujhuf.asp


7 posted on 05/26/2004 9:37:43 AM PDT by Weimdog
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I truly hate this man.


8 posted on 05/26/2004 9:38:43 AM PDT by txlurker
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With all of Michael Moore's million$, he is still fat, ugly, stupid, repulsive and uneducated. I submit this as Proof that money can't help change a person from being a dedicated loser.


10 posted on 05/26/2004 9:40:02 AM PDT by HighWheeler (def.- Democrats: n. from Greek; “democ” - many; “rats” - ugly, filthy, bloodsucking parasites.)
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Gotta have some pictures:

So, how can I get an account at that bank? I need more bang for my buck--both literally and figuratively. And yes, I'm talking both hunting and banking here.

12 posted on 05/26/2004 9:42:01 AM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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Stupid White Man: An Autobiography, by Michael Moore.
14 posted on 05/26/2004 9:43:42 AM PDT by DrNo
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Monkey boy throws crap.
No proof they lied, though tubby
Says that they did. Ha!

Please FReepmail me if you want on/off this ping list.
15 posted on 05/26/2004 9:44:10 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (I make no guarantee that the above post was written by a sane person.)
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All I know for sure is that since "Bowling for Columbine" debuted, both Gun Sales and NRA membership are way up.


16 posted on 05/26/2004 9:44:14 AM PDT by Badeye
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My favorite lie about Michael Moore is this misconception that he's overweight.


18 posted on 05/26/2004 9:46:01 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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So, faced with a thoroughly truthful and honest film, those who object to the film's political points are left with the choice of debating us on the issues in the film – or resorting to character assassination.

I thought the film had a good premise: Exactly why do we love our guns and why do we kill each other with guns so much? That's a valid question to ask and definitely deserves to be explored. Liking Moore's old TV Nation show, I saw this movie thinking I'd like it, but then I did research on several statements and representations in the movie and found out they were lies.

THAT'S why I don't like the movie, not because of some political agenda. It's really sad, because a more honest producer/director could have done some good work with that premise.

But I do have to give him a little credit. He helped debunk the "More guns equals more gun violence" myth with the Canada piece, and the question of news broadcasts constantly putting violence up in prime time is a good one.

19 posted on 05/26/2004 9:46:14 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Michael, is it a lie that you're a fat, ignorant slob?


22 posted on 05/26/2004 9:56:36 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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Anyone taking the trouble to carefully analyze Moore's little piece, above, will see that the man operates in a self-sustaining delusional world. He is probably very much in demand among Academic Leftists, who have a compulsive need to sustain the same delusions.

For a different view on Columbine, see Something Of Value. I wonder what Mr. Moore would have to say about that.

William Flax

23 posted on 05/26/2004 10:05:34 AM PDT by Ohioan
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24 posted on 05/26/2004 10:05:56 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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Michael Moore Mistakes Cannes Award for Chocolate Eclair
25 posted on 05/26/2004 10:08:34 AM PDT by happydogdesign
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Moore... Moore... doesn't ring a bell - is he some 3rd rate idiot beloved by the French?


27 posted on 05/26/2004 10:15:02 AM PDT by talleyman (Never question the patriotism of Democrats - there's none to question.)
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Moore's lies have been EXTENSIVELY documented by the site below, which even invited Moore's responses to his "first round" of debunking:

The Truth About "Bowling For Columbine"

28 posted on 05/26/2004 10:28:47 AM PDT by pogo101
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