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U.S. in Bloody Overnight Battle With Militiamen
Fox News ^ | Sunday, May 23, 2004 | AP

Posted on 05/23/2004 5:36:38 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup

Karbala, Iraq -- U.S. forces battled fighters loyal to radical Muslim cleric Muqtada al-Sadr (search) in his stronghold of Kufa overnight Sunday, and at least 18 people died. Many militiamen returned to their homes after abandoning the center of another holy Shiite city, Karbala, witnesses said.

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KEYWORDS: alsadr; iraq; sadr; shiite; wot
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Come play in the sandbox
1 posted on 05/23/2004 5:36:39 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup
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To: stocksthatgoup

Good. We're kicking a--. Perhaps we'll be able to take this goober out.


2 posted on 05/23/2004 5:41:05 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: Poundstone

Nobody is commenting dirctly, but it does seem that a lot more of those militiamen are dying than ours.


3 posted on 05/23/2004 5:45:55 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Who's that poodle?)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Hopefully his militia will decide to take their toys and go home.


4 posted on 05/23/2004 5:47:23 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Thebaddog

I agree but could we use a different term than "militiamen"? That word has such a positive meaning. I don't know what word to use, even gangster is more positive than what these guys are.


5 posted on 05/23/2004 5:49:59 AM PDT by normy (Just cause you think you can box, doesn't mean you're ready to climb in the ring with Ali.)
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To: normy
Agreed. We should also call these unregulated racist militias in North America 'gangs,' too.
6 posted on 05/23/2004 5:53:23 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad (Rising waves, what motive is behind your impulse? The desire to reach upwards.)
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To: RobbyS

To live to fight another day?

If captured, they should be executed. (Like we did with German insurgents post WWII).


7 posted on 05/23/2004 5:56:26 AM PDT by Guillermo (Simpson, you've got a short in your tail light. It started blinking when you made that turn - Wiggum)
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To: stocksthatgoup

let's play cowboys and terrorist!


8 posted on 05/23/2004 5:56:46 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Cultural Jihad

They go around killing people, like the Mohammedan gangsters do all over the world?


9 posted on 05/23/2004 5:57:29 AM PDT by Guillermo (Simpson, you've got a short in your tail light. It started blinking when you made that turn - Wiggum)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Agreed. We should also call these unregulated racist militias in North America 'gangs,' too.

Yeah I wouldn't call them militias either, more like a-holes.

I like to think of militias as the majority of American men with firearms who would be ready to take them up in the event of invasion.

10 posted on 05/23/2004 5:59:49 AM PDT by normy (Just cause you think you can box, doesn't mean you're ready to climb in the ring with Ali.)
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To: Guillermo
Do racist militias gangs commit murder, too? Yes.
11 posted on 05/23/2004 6:03:38 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad (Rising waves, what motive is behind your impulse? The desire to reach upwards.)
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To: Thebaddog

Have we had an American combat death since last Sunday? I don't recall one.


12 posted on 05/23/2004 6:20:35 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Guillermo

They HAVE been executed. Their numbers have gotten thinner. Hopefully they will also give up Kufa and Najaf. We will see if Sadr is still preaching on Friday.


13 posted on 05/23/2004 6:22:00 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Thebaddog

If you go back through the news stories from Fallujah to now, we are SLAUGHTERING these toads. It really is remarkable. While, of course, any American death is "too many," the kill ratios in these operations are approaching 15 or 20-to-one. No "army" or "resistance" in history has ever survived this kind of attrition.


14 posted on 05/23/2004 6:34:05 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: LS

Any sign that Sadr is still alive or on the loose? I wonder if they went in and took him from the mosque.


15 posted on 05/23/2004 6:42:44 AM PDT by TimPatriot
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To: normy
I agree but could we use a different term than "militiamen"?

It's an excellent and important point.

We must insist on correct terminology. We have witnessed the devolution of language and outright deception in the abortion debates.

Child murder>abortion>pro-choice>abortion rights>women's health.

The folks who do this well know that perception is just as important as the content of an idea, if not more so.

16 posted on 05/23/2004 6:46:24 AM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: LS
No "army" or "resistance" in history has ever survived this kind of attrition.

Unless they were assisted by politicians who insisted on "negotiations" every time that army was threatened with defeat. Man, this is like a bad episode of Star Trek Next Generation. Every time Captain Lollypop should give the bad guys an ass kicking, Counsellor Troy calls for a frigging conference and whines about her "feelings". Screw that noise.

17 posted on 05/23/2004 6:54:07 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: rageaholic
Even under those circumstances, it hasn't happened. The closest you can get is post-Tet Vietnam, and even then, we won and had Vietnamized the war until Congress pulled the plug on the support. But in one month, we killed more than 30,000, wounded 60,000, and took several thousand prisoners---all of a nation of 16 million.

Do the math in Iraq. These "fighters," even with some immigrant nutsos from Syra and Iran, can't number more than about 5,000. We are killing 50-100 a day, not counting wounded. No one can survive that kind of attrition.

18 posted on 05/23/2004 7:01:58 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: LS
until Congress pulled the plug on the support

Big Head Ted Kennedy has his pudgy hands on the cord.

19 posted on 05/23/2004 7:12:54 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: stocksthatgoup

Bump for later read

20 posted on 05/23/2004 7:39:10 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is a sKunk!!)
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