[mousehats]

You may find this surprising, but here in europe we have this thing called "freedom of speech" as well. Just like in america, crackpots are allowed hold forth in obscure blogs on whatever topic they choose, and the rest of the population is perfectly happy to ignore them.

I admit that my original response was quite an angry one as to see someone speculating "if X then WAR WITH EUROPE!!" really p***** me off. If Ralph Nader ran the world we'd all have to adopt trees. It's not gonna happen!

You speak of "straw men" but this entire thread is one.

[americanbychoice2]

I agree with you, there will never be a war between Europe and the US.
However, I do see a revolution taking place in the EU within the next 10 to 15 years. There will be no American involvement.
Just look and read the proposed constitution as I have. "The "Vichy Government" will cause that revolution to happen along with Muslim Migration which will become the majority within 1 1/2 generations.

[Dead Dog]

Realistically, I think you both are probably right.

However, the vitriol of the left, and the "Blame Israel", "Blame America" first crowd worry me. The first step of betrayal is convincing ones self that they've been betrayed. And the idea that Europeans will suffer because American's are dumb, greedy, fat, ignorant, violent, emperialistic isn't much different than the Palestinians excuse to murder.