Posted on 05/21/2004 11:31:17 AM PDT by Dead Dog
I just hope it is the typical 33%, 33%, 33% split there as it is here. Seems people break out on an issue in thirds, with 1/3 undecided. When it shifts away from that, I worry.
We seen to be at 45%, 45% and 10% here in the US.
I should correct this:
I just hope it is the typical 33%, 33%, 33% split there as it USUALLY is here. Seems people break out on an issue in thirds, with 1/3 undecided. When it shifts away from that there is usually something driving the issue.
We seen to be at 45%, 45% and 10% here in the US.
Yeah, who is this dork?
I agree with you, there will never be a war between Europe and the US.
However, I do see a revolution taking place in the EU within the next 10 to 15 years. There will be no American involvement.
Just look and read the proposed constitution as I have. "The "Vichy Government" will cause that revolution to happen along with Muslim Migration which will become the majority within 1 1/2 generations.
I'll pick door number two.
Just read the proposed constitution, you will change your views.
Everything from Taxes, defense to schooling will be ruled by the appointed, not elected Aristocrats in Brussels. Sovereignty will not exist anymore.
Germany and France are basically becoming oe "Grande Nation" and are out to rule the rest of Europe. They do have the largest polulations and will use it. Make no mistakes about it.
The shift of Investments and manufacturing will (is) shifting to the cheap eastern European countries. The Germans and French won't like it, the eastern Europeans won't like having to pay Brussels back their Investments back through high taxes.
The EU is a sham, it will take a few years to realize that.
Thanks to Blair, he may be able to throw a wrench into it through his referendum.
you can read it on line. I am always amazed about the Europeans. Things like a constitution, which will determine their ultimate destiny, won't be read, yet individual discussions will continue forever.
As to your point about the british and the Irish not going to give up on their individual taxation, just read that monster.
The EU, as a socialist empire should, will continue to increase taxes to pay for their agenda.
I can just see some new, never before dreamed of taxes coming your way.
EU eastern development Taxes.
(When the US leaves NATO) Defense Taxes.
etc., etc.
Read and weep. There will not be changes made anymore. The last hope is the referendum
For your information,it way past that point. The Constitution was approved and only Spain and Poland objected to the chance from the Nice treaty, regarding the votes. That has been ironed out and next month the vote should reconvene and pass. The ONLY obstacle is the british referendum. EU officials have declared that even without the British, the constitution will go forward.
Just type into Google European constitution and read it. It is rather long. You will shake your head in disbelief. :)
Here is a quick synopsis of the issues with Taxation in the constitution:
The administrative taxation I presume you are worrying about won't be able to be used for anything more than keeping the machinery of the EU going for quite some time. It is concievable that this can eventually be expanded to a more "federal" type of taxation, however, as I said previously, a "United States of Europe" won't come all at once. Just won't happen.
What is proposed:
On taxes, what is not proposed is more important. It is not proposed to set or harmonise taxes, despite calls for this from some in the Convention. On the economy, the Union would be able to "co-ordinate" the policies of member states but only in a very general way, except for members of the euro currency zone.
What are the issues:
Tax is another red line for those opposed to more power going to the EU. The draft recognises that, though there is a proposal for harmonising "administrative" areas of taxation which remains vague enough to worry some governments. There is also an idea that countries using the euro should be able to take measures without consulting those not in the zone. The "co-ordination" of economic policies means principally the drawing up of guidelines of best practice, though of course within the eurozone, the EU has control of monetary policy.
The Irish Times?
Puh...lease!
Who is this dork?
Ok, I know very little about this bloke, except I assume this is the same 'David McWilliams' (I didn't know he had a hyphenated appendage on his name) that acts as fop-haired economist for TV3 in Ireland.
I've never taken him seriously, and never really liked his presenting style either. But none of TV3's news/current affairs team have ever impressed me, with the exception of Grainne Seoige, who left recently.
In fact, on one Sunday morning recently I happened to see McWilliams salivate over Hilary Clinton in an interview and thought to myself..'Yeah, enough already'.
He's more ego driven than intellectual. An idiot with airtime. Ireland isn't the only nation guilty of that crime.
See my last post.
The European 'constitution' is the most vital piece of European legislation that will effect my country.
Unfortunately, the mass population of Ireland, preparing for the polls in June, couldn't give a shivering shite about the EU - and therefore, are not fully cognisant of the responsibility being granted to MEP's they are voting in!
I could cry thinking about it!
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