Posted on 05/17/2004 3:42:10 PM PDT by swilhelm73
Apparently Carl Sagan was a closeted homophobe:
"Dear Mr. Derbyshire -- If you were not aware, Carl Sagan -- Yes, the happy, life-affirming, turtle-necked, warm-glow Carl Sagan -- was also mildly & tolerantly homophobic.
"Two biographies on Sagan came out in 1999 and both (though one more than the other) were pained and hurt by some of the comments that would come out of Sagan's mouth. My favorite was that Sagan wasn't convinced that homosexuality was genetic, though if forced to accept that conclusion, he wanted it understood that homosexuality was a genetic deformity. Another was when Sagan discovered that his son was best friends with a homosexual at school - he told his son that it would be wrong to not be friends with the boy just because he's gay, but also wrong not to acknowledge that the boy's sexual preferences were not to be approved. ... Sagan's views on homosexuality left the authors confused because at one moment he would be saying something very homophobic and at the next arguing for the promotion of a gay faculty member, etc. What the authors lacked the imagination to understand is that this is how the mild & tolerant homophobic mind works. So in addition to Cicero, you have Carl Sagan on your side."
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Why is this "homophobic"?
That guy was awesome at science, but was also a pot head and politically liberal in general. He's lost a bit of respect in my view.
There's a new theory about female genetic components that attack male genes resulting in more early male miscarriages and causing some males to be gay. One study shows that gay males have siginificantly more aunts than uncles. I can't defend the theory, I just heard about it on a talk show.
My2¢, I was thinking the same thing.
LOL, that is homophobic????? That is more like a well-reasoned point of view. Besides, there isn't one shred of evidence to suggest that homosexuality is genetic.
He's gain respect by a large margin from me. Here is a guy who is able to speak his opinion against the PC science (which has no basis in science).
As to the word, 'homophobe', I will accept that tag if only to irritate the politically correct crowd. I abhor the behavior, but the homosexual man or woman has my sympathy for the prison in which they find themselves.
He was a leftwinger, if he was anti-gay that's an aberation.
Ah...did not know...that thanks for the info!
Look at the language spin: "a closeted homophobe."
Poor Carl Sagan was probably a half-a-fag to begin with; due in part to his years embroilled in the academic quagmire. I dug his stuff, and cut him slack as a peon from Brooklyn.
The point being: he's dead, and somehow his life's work is interfering with getting Kerry elected.
In college, we had a poli sci and a sociology professor who were the leading feminist lesbians on campus. I remember vividly being in the student union building with a very attractive girl who was in tears because the professors were constantly telling her she had to try lesbianism in order to prove she didn't need a man. In other words, they were just trying to get in her pants.
All of this theorizing about why we do the evil we do reminds me of the liberal hand-wringers trying to rationalize the terrorist's motives for September 11, 2001.
Very well put.
Great point, 180 degrees.
Carl Sagan is a well-known atheist. The fact that he might have questioned the gay activist ideological politically correct line simply proves that people may have other objections than religious objections to homosexual behavior. That is why it is so wrong for Canada to criminalize any discussion of homosexuality and why the defense that one is speaking in accordance with sincere religious beliefs is not enough to protect freedom of speech in this area. In a free country, people should be free to discuss homosexuality from all sorts of perspectives, pro and con, and whether based on religious, moral, social, political, biological or anthropological concepts.
What, pray tell, is "a closeted homophobe"???
A lot of lefties have their own rules, one for them and one for us.
Steve Jobs of Apple is notorious for being a flaming liberal and not so subtle "homophobe."
I read where he canceled some Icons on the original Mac because he said the looked too "queer looking and faggy". Ditto's on the decision to move from rainbow Apple logo to monocrome. Or so I've read.
Yet he hires gays by the busload...go figure?
Now if i said this stuff to employees, i'd be sent to PC Camp for reeducation
And the "but he was also 'tolerant'" line.
LOL
Goodness. Such a refusal to accept what most people say is their position on this issue. I dare say it is just as described here (in this area. I parted ways with Sagan on other matters).
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