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Iraqi Governing Council chief sworn in after killing (Mustard Gas shell too?)
CNN ^ | 5/17/04 | CNN

Posted on 05/17/2004 1:35:31 PM PDT by hc87

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A civil engineer from the northern city of Mosul was sworn in Monday to replace the assassinated leader of the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council....

(snip-- skip to paragraph 20)...

"The general said the Iraqi Survey Group, headed by Charles Duelfer, would determine if the shell's discovery indicated Saddam possessed chemical weapons before the U.S. invasion last year. Officials in Washington said another shell -- this one containing mustard gas -- was found 10 days ago in Iraq."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; isg; wmd
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Sarin and mustard gas?

Anyone care to speculate on whether this is deliberate use by the bad guys or some dope unknowingly tapping into a secret cache of WMDs?

1 posted on 05/17/2004 1:35:32 PM PDT by hc87
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To: hc87

Deliberate. More will be found in the next two months. The Dems will look foolish. Syria and Lebanon will be implicated. Pressure will mount on them to give it up. If Bush is re-elected they will. If Kerry is elected, Syria will remain defiant knowing the US will really do nothing.


2 posted on 05/17/2004 1:49:12 PM PDT by Solson (Social wisdom comes from the knowledge of dead ages. - Russell Kirk)
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To: hc87
CNN was playing this off as they bad guys did not know they had sacin earlier. BUT THE MAIN FACT REMAINS NOT THAT THE STUPID GUYS KNEW THEY HAD THE STUFF TO USE IN THAT ARTY SHELL, RATHER THAT THE DANGED SHELL CONTAINED THE POISIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT IT ACTUALLY EXISTED WHEN THE LEFTIST SAID SADDAM DID NOT HAVE THE STUFF!!! Excuse me for being so POed about this when the communist in the media will spin this off to protect the lying socialist democrats.
3 posted on 05/17/2004 1:54:37 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: Solson

Agreed, if Bush is reelected terrorist will shudder and many more will meet allah. If Kerry is elected Terrorists will breath a sigh of relief and they will be allowed the opportunity to regroup, reorganize and resume their attacks on the US homeland.


4 posted on 05/17/2004 1:57:39 PM PDT by BobinIL
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To: BobinIL
The terrorist-supporting states KNOW they can play the UN for all its worth. If the UN is effectively in charge of US foreign affairs, the terrorists will win...easily.

They'll take a year off, regroup and refresh and resurge into the middle east taking back the states they lost. They'll also plan their US attack and quickly embark on making it happen.

5 posted on 05/17/2004 2:06:39 PM PDT by Solson (Social wisdom comes from the knowledge of dead ages. - Russell Kirk)
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To: BobinIL
If Kerry is elected I think he will actually do the most damage to the Moslems and will, by negligence, occasion far more damage to the West than if W is reelected. W will continue the pressure and will keep the enemy off balance. It will be harder for them to build, harder to topple governments. If JFnK is elected he will slack off in Iraq and everywhere else and the saracens will surge taking out governments in Pakistan and Indonesia and all through the ME. Israel will have a much harder time and will face long distance weapons. Domestic security will be mostly dismantled. Then after a decent interval we lose a city or two and Kerry and the crats in congress start throwing everything we have. By then the war will be going hot throughout the western hemisphere.
6 posted on 05/17/2004 2:07:29 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: hc87

He's a brave fellow.


7 posted on 05/17/2004 2:08:02 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: hc87

I go with the second. They accidentally got their hands on it thinking it was just like any other artillery shell otherwise they would have extracted the binary compounds for use in a much more lethal manner.


8 posted on 05/17/2004 2:09:04 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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P.S. Or they simply didn't know how to extract it safely without killing themselves so they just blew it up and hoped for the best.


9 posted on 05/17/2004 2:10:03 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Torie; ambrose

Officials in Washington said another shell -- this one containing mustard gas -- was found 10 days ago in Iraq.

No other evidence of possible chemical weapons has been found in Iraq. The Bush administration cited weapons of mass destruction as a key reason for its invasion.


SOURCE: CNN.COM



10 posted on 05/17/2004 2:19:03 PM PDT by KQQL (@)
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To: arthurus

"Then after a decent interval we lose a city or two and Kerry and the crats in congress start throwing everything we have. By then the war will be going hot throughout the western hemisphere."

And they will have yet another conspiratorial Senate commission blaming Bush.


11 posted on 05/17/2004 2:21:31 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: KQQL; RetiredArmy
Read what RetiredArmy said in #3.

Even if all they ever find is two teaspoonfuls of sarin, the fact remains. Chemical weapons exist where none were supposed to exist.

I don't give a good expletive deleted what CNN says, the stuff is there.

Or it's sitting safe and sound somewhere else. I wonder where that somewhere else is? Aren't you the least bit curious about who is sitting on 8,000 liters of Anthrax?

12 posted on 05/17/2004 2:32:56 PM PDT by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: hc87

Weapons of Mass Destruction breaking out all over...


13 posted on 05/17/2004 2:35:45 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: HiJinx

The contrast between CNN's and Fox's internet headlines on this story is amazing.


14 posted on 05/17/2004 2:39:58 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I think your PS is reasonable.

I doubt sincerely that the average al-Queda or al-Sadr lacky has any idea how to use chemical weapons beyond just trying to get them to spread. If they had more knowledge they would have been manufacturing and using their own supply for the last few years.


15 posted on 05/17/2004 2:53:15 PM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: mikhailovich

It could very well happen that these are the WMD's that Bush was talking about before the war. The thing that is amazing is that the insurgents planting them are not using protective suits. This would immediately draw the attention of American troops.


16 posted on 05/17/2004 2:58:56 PM PDT by meenie
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To: HiJinx

Maybe the WMD's that we were looking for will break open and leak into the atmosphere. That would be an embarrassment to the U.N..
If that happens, lets see how the U.N. inspectors explain that one.


17 posted on 05/17/2004 4:39:26 PM PDT by vetman
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To: hc87

Deliberate and damaging. Start this stuff now as the temps climb to 100 F and you will have GIs and marines travelling around the country in MOPP suits in summer heat. Debilitating enough without the agents. Pop one of these every week or two in different parts of Iraq and it will create problems. I'd say we're dealing with some very clever people. More clever than some second tier Baathist thugs.


18 posted on 05/17/2004 5:38:55 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
P.S. Or they simply didn't know how to extract it safely without killing themselves so they just blew it up and hoped for the best.

More likely. You have to remember these aren't crack troops that we are fighting. They are mean and can do a lot of damage but they aren't that well trained.

There is also the fact that during the first part of the war we found lots of equipment for handling this stuff. Just maybe, when they hid it, they forgot to hide the proper safety equipment with it.

19 posted on 05/17/2004 5:51:14 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Stalin's grave is just another communist plot.)
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To: hc87
A civil engineer from the northern city of Mosul was sworn in Monday to replace the assassinated leader of the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council.

This man, Ghazi Mashal Ajil al-Yawar, must be one of the most courageous people on the face of the earth.

I pray that he dies of old age a very, very long time from now.

Certainly his predecessor, Izzedine Salim, knew full well the risks he faced, and he faced them anyway, and died.

Lest we forget, these men, and all members of the IGC (I have not forgotten Aquila al-Hashimi, either), are the very definition of patriots, willing to give their lives for their people and their nation. God bless them.

20 posted on 05/17/2004 8:00:31 PM PDT by Imal (Revenge is a dish best served often.)
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