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Library of Alexandria discovered
BBC News ^ | Wednesday, 12 May, 2004 | Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 05/17/2004 10:10:51 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: ThatsAllFolks2

Because thinking about burning the local library down is easier than complaining to the ALA and/or asking to be removed from their mailing list.

Some people like to be upset.


21 posted on 05/17/2004 10:56:22 AM PDT by inflation
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To: presidio9
Works by Plato and Socrates and many others were later destroyed in a fire.

I've been under the impression that Socrates left no writings. If so, that name should have been Aristotle, some of whose works are known to have been lost.

22 posted on 05/17/2004 10:59:02 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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To: KellyAdmirer

The Muslim conquerer of Egypt in the 7th century did burn the reconstructed libary of Alexandria, and apparently did so without remorse.


23 posted on 05/17/2004 11:04:28 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: Destro

"It was not the only fire - and what ever was left of the library was done in by the Arabs - they used the books to heat their baths for months."

Since when do Arabs bathe?? ;)


24 posted on 05/17/2004 11:28:32 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: adam_az

BUMP!


25 posted on 05/17/2004 11:35:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: ThatsAllFolks2

I assume you're not familiar with the ALA's refusal to condemn Castro's imprisonment of the Cuban librarians, their press releases decrying the supporters of Robert Kent's Cuban Librarian organization as "right wing" (and therefore, wrong), and their love of everything socialist.


26 posted on 05/17/2004 11:37:12 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: presidio9
The library was later destroyed, possibly by Julius Caesar who had it burned as part of his campaign to conquer the city.

Sheesh. What's with all the dumping on Julius Caesar lately?

The library might have been damaged when Caesar's troops got caught up in the nasty little civil war between Cleopatra and her little brother. But there are historical references to it beyond that time, so it wasn't destroyed until later.

27 posted on 05/17/2004 11:42:08 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: stainlessbanner
Thanks for the ping.

If they hadn't burned down this library, we would probably know the location of Atlantis today.

28 posted on 05/17/2004 11:49:50 AM PDT by blam
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To: presidio9

This is very exciting news!


29 posted on 05/17/2004 11:53:16 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: MarkL
My understanding has always been that the original library was burned during Caesar's campaign in Egypt. I suppose it's possible that during the next few hundred years another was built and books / scrolls were collected only to be burned again by the muslims who invaded in in the late seventh century, but I have never heard that except here at this site.

The Arabs did have possession of many ancient texts which were translated from Greek into Arabic, carried across North Africa to the real gem in their empire, Andalusian Spain, and then translated again into Latin. This was the source of Europe's exposure to Plato's and Aristotle's writings during the late Middle Ages and the Renaissance. But the point is that during a time when any manuscript, scroll, or book was priceless the (First?) Library of Alexandria was a genuine treasure house.

30 posted on 05/17/2004 11:53:29 AM PDT by katana
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To: presidio9

well, except that whole 1 Euclid 5 thing.


31 posted on 05/17/2004 11:53:31 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: inflation; LanPB01

If you're going to talk about someone it is courteous to ping them.


32 posted on 05/17/2004 11:59:26 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

I have no idea what you're talking about.


33 posted on 05/17/2004 12:02:19 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: KellyAdmirer
I have read other accounts that state that the bulk of the world's mathematic and scientific information was lost in Alexandria Fire and much had to be rediscovered in later centuries.

I have always wondered how much more scientific, medical and technological information the world would now posses if it had not been for the Alexandria Fire.

Without Question the Fire was one of the World's greatest tragedies.

34 posted on 05/17/2004 12:02:27 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: katana
...the (First?) Library of Alexandria was a genuine treasure house.

I cannot imagine how much further technological and scientific progress we could have achieved if it had not been for the Alexandria Fire.

35 posted on 05/17/2004 12:05:21 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: inflation

And some people - who obviously don't work in a library and deal with the ALA on an almost daily basis - should keep their mouth shut.


36 posted on 05/17/2004 12:12:47 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: LanPB01

People should not call for the burning down of public buildings.

That's what those we are fighting wish to do, and I would like to think that we are better than that.

If you don't like the ALA, the ask to be removed from their mailing list.

If you don't like working in a library , than quite or work to have it changed so you do like it. Don't support their destruciton.


37 posted on 05/17/2004 12:14:38 PM PDT by inflation
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To: MarkL

I believe you are correct. The Caliph's "reasoning" was that if a book agreed with the Koran, it was superfluous, if it disagreed, it was heretical. You only need 12 billion copies of one book.


38 posted on 05/17/2004 12:18:38 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: Kerberos
I understood that it happened when Cesar was in Egypt, making time with Cleopatra, and there was an uprising within his legions. Caesar burned his fleet to prevent the insurgents from capturing them, and therefore being able to use them against Cesar, and unfortunately much of the library also caught on fire.

However I am not positive if that was the only fire that ever occurred at the Alexandria library.

It wasn't. In 391 AD, the Roman Emperor Theodosius, a Christian zealot, permitted the Patriarch of Alexandia, another zealot, to burn the "pagan" materials in the Library.

In 646 AD the Muslims burned what was left of the Library for similar reasons.

-Eric

39 posted on 05/17/2004 12:24:05 PM PDT by E Rocc (It takes a village to raise a child. The village is Washington. You are the child. - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: DoughtyOne

China went through a revolution in ancient times in which nearly all books were destroyed. Someone built hollow walls in a house and save a bunch. Otherwise we'd know even less about the history of China.


40 posted on 05/17/2004 12:27:08 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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